yes, the historical avant-garde's project of merging life and art seems to have happened, but not exactly in the way they invisioned
guido, i believe, you stated a lot of things that weren't art (duchamp as social worker)--can you provide some examples of this pure aesthetic object you're refering to? On 5/17/05, tamarawyndham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW I didn't expect to generate so much discussion with that quote! > > Donald Kuspit has a critique of Duchamp in his book, "The New > Subjectivism" -- I can't find it right now, but I remember reading it > a long while ago.... he had a great critique of Warhol also.... > > I haven't read his new book yet, "The End of Art" -- Ha! There's been > a whole slew of these books the last couple years, Danto's "After the > End of Art" and Robert Morgan's "The End of the Art World" > > George Machinuas (and others) spoke openly and hopefully about the end > of art, his stated intention in Fluxus was to destroy the difference > between art and life... it was part of his vision of an ideal society... > > More recently there's been some talk of the merging or lack of > division between fine art and popular art. It seemed radical at first, > but now I think of it as more the mass commercialization of art. > "Popular art" is taken too much to mean the mainstream culture created > by corporations: movies, pop music, fashion, etc. > > Here in New York, you see so much art being merged with advertising. A > while ago the Guggenheim had a show of Harley motorcycles, and > Artforum was writing about Benneton sweater ads. I can't help but to > feel cynical about it all. > > - T > > --- In [email protected], guido bondioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > the funny thing about duchamp is that he made his > > > most memorable work > > > as a response of being denied to an exhibit, an art > > > show. > > As he wasn't capable of making Art, lacking an > > appropriate skill set, he was appropriately denied. > > Regardless he made quite a few artifacts that > > represent his place and time quite well. I am reminded > > of the film, The Gods Must Be crazy. Much of what he > > did was only antisocial and had no larger context. > > > > > > he had no problem in having his work documented, > > > presented, and > > > pandered about by the art world. go to philadelphia > > > PA USA and see it. > > Finding a Duchamp in a museum only suggests that it is > > an artifact. Most of what we find in museums is only > > artifacts. Very little is Art. Seeing Duchamp's work > > in museums proves little about Duchamp and much about > > the poor quality of art education and the knowledge of > > curators. > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka > http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > > > ________________________________ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- daniel larusso's gonna fight? daniel larusso's gonna fight! ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> What would our lives be like without music, dance, and theater? Donate or volunteer in the arts today at Network for Good! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pkgkPB/SOnJAA/Zx0JAA/fuDrlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ma-network/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
