Peter, As very often you go to the core of the problem. Knowing some of the dark sides of Bo's soul, I'm not sure you would like to know the whole picture. Sometimes it is better to leave things in darkness, or in the shadow of existence. His vision on mail art (and he accepted only his vision) was like a dark and narrowing tunnel, excluding all other possibilities. The suicide was the final conclusion, the end of the road so to speak. I am between pain and anger. Suicide affects us all. It's like a bug that will remain with us for the rest of our own lives. Nevertheless... I liked what you said so much that I've put it on my newest blog (on Brussels). I've made a page on what happened. The link to the blog is: http://brusselsesjoekes.blogspot.com
The entry on Bo is called "from artistamp to pig's blues", closely linked with "a weekend with Virginia", you'll understand why... Postal Greetings, Guido Vermeulen http://groups.msn.com/POPOPEINT/guidovermeulenartiste.msnw Memorial BLOG http://shadowtributes.blogspot.com BLOG on artist books and small print publications http://boklist.blogspot.com FRIOUR zine blog(s): http://Friour1.blogspot.com " If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there'd be peace." - John Lennon - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: peter kuestermann [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 15 maart 2006 23:47 Aan: [email protected] Onderwerp: (",) pigdada?s suicide Dear friends I am considering pigdada?s suicide. His end moves me very much. I myself am only still here, because there were people exactly at the right time in the right place to show me the value of life through their mere presence, when I was depressed and wanted to throw it away in my darkest moments of addiction. I do not believe now any more that all this happened to me by accident, and so am grateful to them and my higher power. Those of you who know me personally, will understand that these are not the words of a religious spinster, and that I enjoy today every single hour of my new life, as an artist - "whichever the weather" - often enough together with my mail art friends, in their places or mine. What I do regret is that Baudhuin never revealed this dark side of his soul to me and so I had no chance to share my own way of healing with him. may he rest in peace. peter netmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] postfach 2644 D 32383 MINDEN tel=fax 0571 28347 (nur anrufbeantworter, wird taeglich abgehoert) >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: (",) Digest Number 1083 >Date: 15 Mar 2006 00:14:15 -0000 > >There are 9 messages in this issue. > >Topics in this digest: > > 1. baudhuin news > From: JJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 2. RE: Baudhuin Simon > From: Guido Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 3. Pig Dada > From: Alain Alain Valet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 4. Stu Horn > From: Alice Kitselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 5. "i don't care what tomorrow's mail's going to bring" > From: "ross_priddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 6. Re: Pig Dada > From: Alice Kitselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 7. Re: Baudhuin Simon > From: johnson alexis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 8. Re: Baudhuin Simon > From: "Sztuka Fabryka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > 9. Re: RE: (,) Ellen DeGeneres Mail Art Call > From: johnson alexis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:40:20 -0800 (PST) > From: JJ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: baudhuin news > >Is there anymore information about this sad news? He >was way too young! > >ex posto facto > >1994-2004 >10 Years of Fluxus Bucks! >Dope slapping the Network one Fluxus Buck at a time... > >Mail me art---or a request for Fluxus Bucks! >Dr. Victoria Fluxbuxenstein >p.o. box 495522 >Garland, TX 75049-5522 USA > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:27:18 +0100 > From: Guido Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: Baudhuin Simon > >To all mail artists > >On the suicidal death of Baudhuin Simon: >Yes, the news is true. It reached me by a message from his former girl >friend on Saturday while I was hosting the arrival of a poet in my flat >(Virginia Cubillan, someone I met thru Mark Sonnenfeld, she lives in the >USA but is from Venezuela) > >The contrast between the excitement of meeting someone new thru' the >network and the sad announcement of the suicide of Baudhuin (who introduced >me to mail art in 1993) was enormous. >I took Virginia to see a Puccini opera on Saturday (Le Villi) >That opera is on the ghosts of dead people!!! >Sunday we traveled to Ostend to attend a concert with the music of Preisner >(who wrote the splendid scores for all of Kieslowski's movies) >The concert started with a selection of parts of his requiem for a dead >friend. >It almost felt that PIG DADA was present during the whole weekend. > >I could tell you lots of things on the circumstances of his act but I >refrain myself and prefer to be quiet. It's his choice and the end of his >traveling, in this world anyway. The least I can do is respect this. > >Be well and remember him for what he meant in mail art ... > > > > >Postal Greetings, > >Guido Vermeulen >http://groups.msn.com/POPOPEINT/guidovermeulenartiste.msnw > >Memorial BLOG >http://shadowtributes.blogspot.com > >BLOG on artist books and small print publications >http://boklist.blogspot.com > >FRIOUR zine blog(s): >http://Friour1.blogspot.com > > > > >" If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then >there'd be peace." > > - John Lennon - > > > > >-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >Van: Sztuka Fabryka [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Verzonden: zaterdag 11 maart 2006 14:56 >Aan: [email protected] >Onderwerp: (",) Baudhuin Simon > >I received today the news that Belgian mail-artists Baudhuin Simon has >passed away on Thursday 9 March. I was not in contact with him the past >years, due to reasons, but as a great wise man said. Every person who dies >is another museum burned down. >Will remember the good moments. > >I haven't got any information of cause of death as he has died very young, >I >believe he must be mid fifties and was living a very healthy life. > >Greetings, >Geert > > > > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka >http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:28:52 +0100 (CET) > From: Alain Alain Valet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Pig Dada > >I'm living 15 km from Baudhuin's place, but I've just heard the sad new >yesterday evening (my mother phoned me 'cause she had read the death >announcement in the newspaper). Baudhuin introduced me into mail art in >1992. We had many personal and mail art meetings during all these years. > Tomorrow Wednesday at 17.15 (16.15 GMT) there will be a latest hommage >to him at Habay, his village. I'll go there for this ultimate meeting, and >will made a "metanet congress" with all the mail artists in contact with >him. If you want to leave a written message, you can e-mail it, I will >print it and add it in an envelop I will deposit by his ashes. > > Alain Valet > Arlon, Belgium > > >--------------------------------- > Nouveau : telephonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Decouvez les >tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Telechargez >la version beta. > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:23:06 -0700 > From: Alice Kitselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Stu Horn > >Hi Folks, just passing along some info left in my website's >guestbook---- DFD > >Pat Rogers >E-Mail: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Homepage Title: >Stuart Horn Northwest Mounted Valise (Re >Homepage URL: >http://mysite.verizon.net/aahpat/stu/stu.htm >Referred By: >Just Surfed In >Location: >PA, usa >Comments: >For what its worth..... > >Stuart Horn Northwest Mounted Valise (Re-opened) >http://mysite.verizon.net/aahpat/stu/stu.htm > >Newly created web page for the 1970-80's mail art collage work of >Stuart Horn, The Northwest Mounted Valise. Stuart was the second >editor of Ray Johnson's Weekly Breeder. The materials are from an >offset collection he gave me in the 1980's, 'The Clip Board >Collection'. Other works from this collection and other selections >from Stuart's private collection are coming soon. > >Bio and bibliographic pages will expand, along with the collage >pages, as Stuart and I gather it. > >Pat Rogers >Gray Area Productions > > > >Dragonfly Dream >www.dragonflydream.com > > "Paradise is exactly like where you are right now... only much, >much better." > -- Laurie Anderson > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:39:53 -0000 > From: "ross_priddle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: "i don't care what tomorrow's mail's going to bring" > >Pig Dada (Baudhuin Simon) was the very first contributor to the Five >million Copies project (http://fivemilcopiesproj.blogspot.com where i >have just posted his envelope (finally! (& too late! (because it came >in before the project went a bloggin' (but i did include his piece in >HAT & in the snail doc, so...))))) > >i find it so sad, and a little disturbing... i think part of the reason >i do mail-art is because it gives me so much to look forward to... so, >it's sad to learn that it can still be "not enough" ... anyway, my >sympathies to all my belgian friends & all who knew him > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:51:34 -0700 > From: Alice Kitselman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Pig Dada > >... If you want to leave a written message, you can e-mail it, I will >print it and add it in an envelop I will deposit by his ashes. > > > > > > > Poor fellow, I will miss his piggy mailings. I hope he is well in >the spirit world and looking down upon us-laughing!!! >Peace to Baudhuin!!! Oink-oink-oink!!!! > >Dragonfly Dream >www.dragonflydream.com > > "Paradise is exactly like where you are right now... only much, >much better." > -- Laurie Anderson > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:53:06 -0800 (PST) > From: johnson alexis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Baudhuin Simon > >To Pig Dada (Baudhuin Simon) > > We share a dream > But you chose to leave us now > So we dream without you > > Adieu, God Bless, Good Speed > We will meet again beyond the mountains > Where our songs will shine as the stars > > D. Amato > > > (And if there are any other mail artists, especially you older ones, >that are thinking of committing suicide. E-mail me or some or many of us >other mail artists and let us discuse it first...please.) > > > >Reine Shad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What a terrible new ! >I have just recieved a letter last week from him...I was working on the >answer ! >Go in peace.. > >Reine shad >"i stopped to send a lot of letters" > > > >To unsubscribe, send an email to: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Mailinglist from Sztuka Fabryka >http://www.sztuka-fabryka.be/ > > > > SPONSORED LINKS > Network storage Network management Network performance >management Network security Network performance Network switch > >--------------------------------- > YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > > > Visit your group "ma-network" on the web. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > >--------------------------------- > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Travel > Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! > >[This message contained attachments] > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:17:17 +0100 > From: "Sztuka Fabryka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: Baudhuin Simon > >And if there are any other mail artists, especially you older ones, that >are >thinking of committing suicide. E-mail me or some or many of us other mail >artists and let us discuse it first...please. > >Hey Alexis, >We are the most difficult annimals on the world, we have such a sufficient >brain which is possible to understand what moves the whole universe. But it >needs only almost nothing to turn a very strong man in the most lonely >person on the planet, which such a pain that death has become the only >solution. >I think that what Baudhuin did was not planned, but the possibility was >there to do so, so he did. A one second thought that erase all the good he >has on the world. Only the pain is there. >We have the best communication possibilities today. I can write e-mails to >thousands of people and call lots of freinds. But are we realy possible to >talk to each other. Our communication technology should bring people >together, but infact the gap is bigger then ever before. >We as Mail-artists do know sometimes hundreds of people of which 20 are >very >very close friends. But if you are allone in a cold house and you have pain >then I think the idea of knowing lots of people all over the world does not >help. Because there is the pain, and to take their own life looks as the >only solution. It is the person who should be very strong enough to pull >himself up and seek help by all kind of means. If not we only shoould >understand. > >g >G > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ >________________________________________________________________________ > >Message: 9 > Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:39:52 -0800 (PST) > From: johnson alexis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: RE: (,) Ellen DeGeneres Mail Art Call > >I hope your boss loved your excuse, Guido! Sounds like you had a marvelous >day. Sendme some little ole thing if you get a chance. > > Dawn Amato > >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Christine, > >I put more on the blog and mentioned also Ellen. >This is how I spent Sunday: > >Had a marvelous Sunday. During 3 days the Danil Quartett played the >complete string quartetts (15!) of Shostakovitch in the Royal Music School >in Brussels. >I only witnessed the last day when they executed 6 string quartetts but >there was more. >It started with a Russian brunch from 9.30-11 AM. During the brunch there >was a musical salon in which pupils of the school performed also pieces of >Shostakovitch (other string quartetts, trio's for piano, violin and cello, >songs and so on). >At 11 AM started Danil Quartett. >At 3 PM was another musical salon. >At 5 PM was a conference on decoding the compositions (marvelous analysis >with text; music fragments and pictures) >At 6 PM started second session of Danil. >After the session the public could talk with the performers who also signed >programs, posters and CD's. >I lived on another cloud that Sunday and decided to take the day off on >Monday. Just phoned my job to tell them I took a holiday because >overwhelmed by Shostakovitch... >The 15th quartett is just like his 15th symphony a musical will or >testament. >It's composed of 6 adagio's ! So it is one long requiem in fact, marvelous >music, flirting with emotions of nearby physical death and spiritual >immortality all the time. >Anyway I bought the box with all quartetts, too beautiful NOT to purchase >it. > > >Guido > > >Original Message: >----------------- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:49:06 -0500 >To: [email protected] >Subject: (",) Ellen DeGeneres Mail Art Call > > >Dear Artists, > You are cordially invited to participate in ELLEN MAKES ME SMILE, a >new mail art/ist book project being produced by Words of Light Int'l >Publishing in the USA. > > Ellen DeGeneres, a brilliant American humorist widely known for her >compassion for all, and outspoken on many issues, including gay rights and >animal protection. Every day she helps move us forward with her positive, >insightful, and funny talk show. She has often demonstrated her artistic >sensibilities and I think she would just love MAIL ART!! > >THEME: ELLEN MAKES ME SMILE > >NO RESTRICTIONS > >DOCUMENTATION: b&w ARTIST BOOK copies to all participants; color ARTIST >BOOK copy to ELLEN; and to GUIDO VERMEULEN for his BLOG, >www.boklist.blogspot.com > >PLEASE SEND YOUR WORKS BY MAY 31, 2006 > >ELLEN MAKES ME SMILE >Words of Light Int'l Publishing >275 Baldwinville Rd. 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