Heck I feel we were screwed with a pitch fork and then some, $100 this
is what you call support?  Please, $0, talkback and their developers
actually listen to us.  Respond to us on the eyes-free mailing list
about talkback.

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> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:07:12 -0500
> From: "Pedro M." <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] Help
> To: <[email protected]>
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> Try doing the following.
>
> Go to your phone settings, click on applications, and click on run and
> shutdown all those apps that you’re not using.  They use up allot of your
> battery.
>
> Also when you go to Verizon, ask them to check the battery, if the phone is
> not maintaining the charge, chances are the battery is no good.
>
> also try calling Motorola, and see if they can help.
>
> number is: 800-Motorola
>
> HTH.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> From: Virginia Robertson
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [MA] Help
>
> I have Motorola 4 Android with Verizon and am using MA.  I have System
> Notify and use volumes to answer calls both checked.  When I charge my phone
> at night,  I check it by turning it on after 3 hours.  MA says it’s charged
> after 3 hours.  So, I turn all the way off and my Bluetooth too.  However,
> the next day when I power my phone up, it doesn’t power up.  What is causing
> this.  I already had one replacement phone with the same issue.  Some store
> clerk might try to blame MA when checking about apps taking too much juice.
> What do I do?  I can’t afford a brand new $400.00 phone and have only been a
> Verizon customer since August this year.
>
>
>
> Thanks for timely responses.
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> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:58:15 -0600
> From: "Chris Miller" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] upgrading phone
> To: "Mobile Accessibility Android Users List"
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> Well, depends on what you want.  I find more of the stock apps accessible
> with a higher version.  Won’t go back unless I absolutely, absolutely,
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> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 03:54:07 -0500
> From: "Jarrod Jicha" <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
> To: "'Mobile Accessibility Android Users List'"
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> You don't even want to know what I think of this company at all! First of
> all this is a damned MOBILE ACCESSIBILITY list, not a damned mobile speak
> list! Jesus! Why would we care about mobile speak on this list! Iof I
> wanted
> to hear about that program, I would have signed up to its mailing list.
>
> Here is a thought! Why not tell us what you are working on for us? Meaning
> mobile accessibility?  I mean there are lots of us that did purchase your
> program you know.  I do believe if I am not mistaken your last update came
> out in either may or june!  And instead of fixing what a lot of us have
> been
> telling you needed fixed, what do you do? You brag about your Braille
> support! We just added a new feature that will make a lot of blind people
> happy! Braille support! Well big hairy deal!  We want features fixed! We
> don't want new features, until you fix a lot of the old stuff. Come on!
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amanda Chokov
> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:27 PM
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
> Subject: Re: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
>
> Nick, totally 1000% agree with you! I don't even remember the last time ma
> had an update. I almost feel like we've been forgotten about.
>
>      Amanda
>
> On 11/26/12, Nick Zammarelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Good news to be sure for Mobile Speak users, but what about those of
>> us who use Mobile Accessibility for Android? It's time those of us
>> without Braille displays got some more bang for our buck. Just athought.
>> Thanks,
>> Nick
>>
>> From: Swati Sharma
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:21 AM
>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Subject: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>>
>> We are happy to announce the release of v5.81 of Mobile Speak Symbian.
>> It is another free upgrade for users with a v4.0 or later license.
>> This version is a patch release which supports new firmware versions
>> that have recently been released on some devices (Belle Refresh and
>> Belle Feature Pack 2). In addition, some bug general bug fixes and
>> improvements have been included (including support for the latest
>> version of WhatsApp), so all users are encouraged to upgrade to v5.81.
>> No TTS packages have been changed in this release, so there's no need
>> to upgrade your TTS version if you already have the latest one installed.
>>
>> If you currently have v5.80 installed, then you can go into Configure
>> Mobile Speak > Options > Product downloads > Check for updates and
>> follow the instructions to install this release on top of your current
>> version. Please remember to install to the same memory location where
>> Mobile Speak is currently installed. If you are prompted with
>> something like "Unable to install. Some applications must be closed
>> first. Close now?", choose OK and the installation should proceed.
>> After a few minutes, the installation will complete and Mobile Speak
>> should be running (a restart of the device is recommended as always).
>> Alternatively, you can download v5.81 from our web page at
>> http://codefactory.es/en/downloads.asp?id=348#version_0_106. The
>> direct link to the installer is
> http://codefactory.es/download.asp?file=family_4/product_18/version_106/Mobi
> leSpeak_S60_v5.81.sisx.
>>
>> That user manual has been updated and can be found here:
>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html
>>
>> Here's a list of all the changes in this release:
>>   a.. Support for Symbian Belle Feature Pack 2 (FP2). This firmware
>> has recently been made available on the 603, 700, 701 and 808 devices.
>> Changes
>> include:
>>     a.. Support for Web Browser. Please check the web browser tips and
>> workarounds for Belle FP2 in the user manual here:
>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html#
>> _Toc341688819
>>
>>     b.. Support for Email.
>>     c.. Support for Help pages.
>>     d.. Fixed problem on 700 and 603 devices where it was difficult to
>> unlock the lock screen. This can now be done on these devices by
>> pressing the Menu key or the Screen Lock key and then doing a swipe
>> left or right on the screen.
>>     e.. Automatically closing half keyboard when it appears when
>> entering text, and fixing problem with entering text in Keypad mode.
>> Note however that the text input mode (e.g. alpha, number or
>> predictive) may not be spoken correctly due to a firmware bug,
>> although it can still be changed as always by pressing the # key.
>>   b.. Support for Nokia Belle Refresh firmware (recently available as
>> an update on the N8, E6, E7, C7, C6-01, X7 and 500). This will fix the
>> problems where the web browser and email were not working correctly on
>> these devices after updating to Nokia Belle Refresh.
>>   c.. Updated to provide full support for the latest v2.8.22 of Whatsapp.
>>   d.. Web: Fixed problem where some buttons and images were not being
>> spoken on some pages.
>>   e.. Nokia HQ: modified the change made in recent release which
>> stopped vibrations when Nokia HQ voice was selected. Now, the
>> vibrations will still occur if the Nokia HQ voice is not speaking at
>> the time the vibration is meant to occur. However, if the voice is
>> speaking, the vibration will not occur since it would interrupt the
> speech.
>>   f.. Fixed problem where screen reader was using wrong language
>> resources when a program was being used which does not support the
>> current phone language (e.g. Skype in some languages).
>>   a.. Braille: On Focus Blue devices, fixed stability and performance
>> with rockers.
>>   b.. Braille: Added additional commands for EasyLink/BraillePen
>> devices, to provide an alternative for devices without a joystick:
>>     a.. Enter: Space + dots15.
>>     b.. Dial: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots15.
>>     c.. Hang up: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots125.
>>   c.. Braille: Added missing commands for Humanware Brailliant devices
>> (BI32, BI40 and B80):
>>   d.. Braille: Fixed problem on some devices where Toggle Help Mode,
>> Toggle Secret mode and Open User Dictionary commands were not working.
>>   e.. Latest translations.
>> We hope you enjoy this this latest release!
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Support
>> Submit Help Desk Ticket at
>> http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/index.php?a=add
>> Code Factory
>> Making mobile phones and PDAs accessible to the blind and visually
>> impaired.
>> Moving Accessibility Forward!
>> www.codefactory.es
>> Follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/codefactory and on our blog
>> at http://codefactoryblog.wordpress.com/
>> To learn more about Mobile Speak 4 visit
>> http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=318
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:13:20 +0000
> From: Saqib Hussain <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
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> Well there's no need for MA now because Android 4.1 is much improved
> and allot of people don't feel the need for MA anyway.
>
> On 27/11/2012, Jarrod Jicha <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You don't even want to know what I think of this company at all! First of
>> all this is a damned MOBILE ACCESSIBILITY list, not a damned mobile speak
>> list! Jesus! Why would we care about mobile speak on this list! Iof I
>> wanted
>> to hear about that program, I would have signed up to its mailing list.
>>
>> Here is a thought! Why not tell us what you are working on for us?
>> Meaning
>> mobile accessibility?  I mean there are lots of us that did purchase your
>> program you know.  I do believe if I am not mistaken your last update
>> came
>> out in either may or june!  And instead of fixing what a lot of us have
>> been
>> telling you needed fixed, what do you do? You brag about your Braille
>> support! We just added a new feature that will make a lot of blind people
>> happy! Braille support! Well big hairy deal!  We want features fixed! We
>> don't want new features, until you fix a lot of the old stuff. Come on!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Amanda Chokov
>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 6:27 PM
>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>> Subject: Re: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
>>
>> Nick, totally 1000% agree with you! I don't even remember the last time
>> ma
>> had an update. I almost feel like we've been forgotten about.
>>
>>      Amanda
>>
>> On 11/26/12, Nick Zammarelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good news to be sure for Mobile Speak users, but what about those of
>>> us who use Mobile Accessibility for Android? It's time those of us
>>> without Braille displays got some more bang for our buck. Just athought.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Nick
>>>
>>> From: Swati Sharma
>>> Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 7:21 AM
>>> To: Mobile Accessibility Android Users List
>>> Subject: [MA] Mobile Speak V5.81 is now available!
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>> We are happy to announce the release of v5.81 of Mobile Speak Symbian.
>>> It is another free upgrade for users with a v4.0 or later license.
>>> This version is a patch release which supports new firmware versions
>>> that have recently been released on some devices (Belle Refresh and
>>> Belle Feature Pack 2). In addition, some bug general bug fixes and
>>> improvements have been included (including support for the latest
>>> version of WhatsApp), so all users are encouraged to upgrade to v5.81.
>>> No TTS packages have been changed in this release, so there's no need
>>> to upgrade your TTS version if you already have the latest one
>>> installed.
>>>
>>> If you currently have v5.80 installed, then you can go into Configure
>>> Mobile Speak > Options > Product downloads > Check for updates and
>>> follow the instructions to install this release on top of your current
>>> version. Please remember to install to the same memory location where
>>> Mobile Speak is currently installed. If you are prompted with
>>> something like "Unable to install. Some applications must be closed
>>> first. Close now?", choose OK and the installation should proceed.
>>> After a few minutes, the installation will complete and Mobile Speak
>>> should be running (a restart of the device is recommended as always).
>>> Alternatively, you can download v5.81 from our web page at
>>> http://codefactory.es/en/downloads.asp?id=348#version_0_106. The
>>> direct link to the installer is
>> http://codefactory.es/download.asp?file=family_4/product_18/version_106/Mobi
>> leSpeak_S60_v5.81.sisx.
>>>
>>> That user manual has been updated and can be found here:
>>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html
>>>
>>> Here's a list of all the changes in this release:
>>>   a.. Support for Symbian Belle Feature Pack 2 (FP2). This firmware
>>> has recently been made available on the 603, 700, 701 and 808 devices.
>>> Changes
>>> include:
>>>     a.. Support for Web Browser. Please check the web browser tips and
>>> workarounds for Belle FP2 in the user manual here:
>>> http://codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms581_userguide_symbian.html#
>>> _Toc341688819
>>>
>>>     b.. Support for Email.
>>>     c.. Support for Help pages.
>>>     d.. Fixed problem on 700 and 603 devices where it was difficult to
>>> unlock the lock screen. This can now be done on these devices by
>>> pressing the Menu key or the Screen Lock key and then doing a swipe
>>> left or right on the screen.
>>>     e.. Automatically closing half keyboard when it appears when
>>> entering text, and fixing problem with entering text in Keypad mode.
>>> Note however that the text input mode (e.g. alpha, number or
>>> predictive) may not be spoken correctly due to a firmware bug,
>>> although it can still be changed as always by pressing the # key.
>>>   b.. Support for Nokia Belle Refresh firmware (recently available as
>>> an update on the N8, E6, E7, C7, C6-01, X7 and 500). This will fix the
>>> problems where the web browser and email were not working correctly on
>>> these devices after updating to Nokia Belle Refresh.
>>>   c.. Updated to provide full support for the latest v2.8.22 of
>>> Whatsapp.
>>>   d.. Web: Fixed problem where some buttons and images were not being
>>> spoken on some pages.
>>>   e.. Nokia HQ: modified the change made in recent release which
>>> stopped vibrations when Nokia HQ voice was selected. Now, the
>>> vibrations will still occur if the Nokia HQ voice is not speaking at
>>> the time the vibration is meant to occur. However, if the voice is
>>> speaking, the vibration will not occur since it would interrupt the
>> speech.
>>>   f.. Fixed problem where screen reader was using wrong language
>>> resources when a program was being used which does not support the
>>> current phone language (e.g. Skype in some languages).
>>>   a.. Braille: On Focus Blue devices, fixed stability and performance
>>> with rockers.
>>>   b.. Braille: Added additional commands for EasyLink/BraillePen
>>> devices, to provide an alternative for devices without a joystick:
>>>     a.. Enter: Space + dots15.
>>>     b.. Dial: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots15.
>>>     c.. Hang up: Space + dot7(Shift) + dots125.
>>>   c.. Braille: Added missing commands for Humanware Brailliant devices
>>> (BI32, BI40 and B80):
>>>   d.. Braille: Fixed problem on some devices where Toggle Help Mode,
>>> Toggle Secret mode and Open User Dictionary commands were not working.
>>>   e.. Latest translations.
>>> We hope you enjoy this this latest release!
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Support
>>> Submit Help Desk Ticket at
>>> http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/index.php?a=add
>>> Code Factory
>>> Making mobile phones and PDAs accessible to the blind and visually
>>> impaired.
>>> Moving Accessibility Forward!
>>> www.codefactory.es
>>> Follow us on Twitter at http://twitter.com/codefactory and on our blog
>>> at http://codefactoryblog.wordpress.com/
>>> To learn more about Mobile Speak 4 visit
>>> http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=318
>>>
>>>
>>>
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