John, a question for you. If one turns off the VO sounds but you had VO still 
announcing the page loading by tone, don't you get any sound?
In other words if the vo sounds are turned on does the sound "web area loaded" 
get announced when loading a new webpage. 

The reason I'm asking is because some of those sounds can be so quick and some 
so silent and because of my hearing impairment, I don't always hear certain 
sounds. So am checking if its a default thing that happens regardless of VO 
sounds being on off. 

Thanks 

Daniel          
On 19 Jan 2012, at 18:20, John Panarese wrote:

>    I actually changed the web loading to sounds only.  I never trusted the 
> percent announced, but that's just my craziness.
> 
>     Sometimes, you are not informed when a site fully loads.  I am sure the 
> more technically knowledgeable can explain that, but I simply give sites a 
> few seconds if I do not have an indication that they have loaded.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
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> 
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> On Jan 19, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
> 
>> Hi John and Zack, thanks for both your answers. 
>> If VO is already talking when sounds are heard then I guess that's cool. My 
>> only problem and I hope that someone can explain when it is done is to do 
>> with loading webpages. 
>> 
>> Basically I have VO announce the page loading process. So for example VO 
>> will say "76.9" then "86.2". those are just random figures. Well when VO 
>> stops announcing them, I don't really know when the page is fully loaded. I 
>> also have the web summary checked check box checked so VO tells me how many 
>> headings and links etc to my liking announced as well. This is fine but now 
>> and then I don't get this so if the percentages and the headings links don't 
>> get announced when loading a page if there any command one can use to check 
>> to see if the page is still loading or fully loaded. 
>> Its probably an obvious answer when one says it but I'd like to know anyway 
>> despite that. 
>> 
>> Thanks 
>> 
>> Daniel        
>> On 19 Jan 2012, at 00:15, Zachary Kline wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I can't say I notice any difference. The sounds play underneath VO's voice 
>>> in a lot of cases, so you hear both at the same time. That might be 
>>> problematic if you have trouble processing more than one sound at once, but 
>>> otherwise I'd say it's about the same either way.
>>> Yours,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 4:13 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't notice a difference.  At least, nothing I have really detected 
>>>> with my ears.
>>>> 
>>>> Take Care
>>>> John Panarese
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Daniel McGee wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all, just have a simple question. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> When for those who use VO with the sounds, I was just simply wondering do 
>>>>> you get quicker speech when not using them? Or is it the same amount of 
>>>>> time either way. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope this makes sense. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If anyone wants me to explain further then I will try and do so. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks 
>>>>> 
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