Hello Esther

This is correct; because each account has its own certificate where applicable, 
we just haven't got around to obtaining the rest yet; but we will.

Lynne


On 23 Jul 2011, at 22:57, Esther wrote:

Hello Lynne,

When you post from the mac-access support account, which shows up as from 
"Gordon & Lynne Smith" there are no digital certificates. Similarly, when you 
post from your personal mac-access.net email account, which shows up as from 
"Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith", there are no digital certificates.  But when I 
read posts from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account now, which shows 
up as from "Gordon Smith", I can view the "Unable to verify message signature" 
alerts.

This only started happening recently, meaning the first one of these I noticed 
was in the middle of the "Gordon & Lynne Fall Victim To Apple's Changes Once 
Again!" thread -- not the first post, but your reply to Rose two days ago. 
After that, every post from Gordon's personal mac-access.net email account 
contains that alert.  (I'm backed up on reading mail, so I have the last few 
days on tap).

What Gordon told me last year, was that he had determined that Comodo's free 
certificates contain your name, but that each one contains links back to their 
own service.  I'm wondering whether the certificates in question are being 
routed through a machine whose links differ from the one the certificate was 
issued for, and that is the cause of the warnings.  I'm also confused, because 
for quite some time there were no certifications on posts from Gordon's 
personal mac-access.net email account.  With the GeoTrust certificates, I 
should see  a Security field after the "Reply to:" line containing the 
"Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" in the message headers area of the post. 

I find this all puzzling, but it has nothing to do with Lion.  It may have to 
do with the way the accounts and their certificates are set up, and also 
whether any changes have been made to the email account after the certificate 
was issued.  Nic's certificates on this list have always been strange, since he 
started using them.  At least that's consistent <smile>.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther


On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:06, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith wrote:

> Hello Esther
> 
> Just to point out; Gordon isn't using a Comodo digital certificate. As you 
> quite rightly say, he tried them; band experienced a lot of problems with 
> them so he removed it and we bought some certificates from GeoTrust. Thus, 
> his certificate is a GeoTrust one. It is valid and functional.
> 
> Lynne
> 
> On 23 Jul 2011, at 19:26, Esther wrote:
> 
> Hi Geoff,
> 
> Nic's notes to the list are sent with a digital certificate.  I think that he 
> applied for one of these using the Comodo digital certificate source that was 
> discussed in the Take Control Guide for Apple Mail.  However, even under Snow 
> Leopard, Nic's posts come with an extra "Unable to verify message signature. 
> There was a problem reading the digital signature for this message."  and a 
> "Show details" button if you navigate back from the message content scroll 
> area.  I'm not of aware of this when I read mail on my iOS devices, but I can 
> find this if I look for it using Apple Mail in Snow Leopard (and I think it 
> also showed up in Leopard, too). 
> 
> A year ago, this happened when Gordon tried to set up a digital certificate 
> for Lynne from Comodo. When he tried sending mail secured with digital 
> certificates (from another service -- not Comodo), there would be an extra 
> line in at the end of the heading "Security: Signed (Gordon Smith)" after the 
> "Reply-To:" field line.   But when I examined similar posts from Lynne. I'd 
> get the same "Unable to verify message signature".
> 
> I think what you're seeing depends on which account Lynne has been using -- 
> the one with the separately purchased digital certificate or the free one 
> from Comodo.
> 
> It's not a bug in Lion, it's just that it was possible to ignore this in Snow 
> Leopard or Leopard unless you examined the headings in detail.  
> 
> HTH.  And I did write to Nic off list last November mentioning that I'd 
> noticed this weird behavior with his digital certificates.  In the case of 
> Gordon and Lynne's digital signature certificates, there may have been some 
> on or off list posts last July.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jul 23, 2011, at 07:49, Geoff Waaler wrote:
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I've been cheating a bit.  I intend to do what it takes to make friends with 
>> the new Lion layout and preview pane, but Lion has generated so much 
>> traffic, that in the interest of time I've been primarily using my trusty 
>> Netbook and MSIE.
>> 
>> I don't know when this started since before Lion I've normally reviewed this 
>> list on the Mac, but since Lion, I've observed that I cannot read any posts 
>> authored by Nicolai Svendsen  without opening a text attachment in Notepad.  
>> As I suspected Nic's posts appear normally in AppleMail.  Today I noticed 
>> the identical behavior with a post authored by Gordon, even though Lynne's 
>> are perfectly readable in MSOE.  According to the header, the characteristic 
>> that seems to trigger this is that most posts have a message type of "plane 
>> text" while the ones from Nic and Gordon are "multipart mixed".  I know I've 
>> had no problems reading multipart messages in MSOE previously, hence wonder 
>> if there is some kind of Lion bug that broke a standard, rendering it more 
>> difficult for those reading on other platforms?
>> 
>> Best regards.
>> Geoff
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