Hello Paul, John, and Others,

A quick way to get to the System Preferences for Services is to select some 
text (doesn't have to be in Safari, can be in another application, such as 
mail), then navigate to the Services menu on the menu bar (e.g., Control+F2 or 
VO+m to the menu bar, navigate (VO+Right arrow) to the application, arrow down 
and navigate to the Services menu option (quickly type "s e r" then press 
return), then again quickly type "s e r" to move to the "Services Preferences" 
option in the Services sub-menu, and press return.  You'll be placed directly 
in the Keyboard shortcuts pane that John mentions, with the advantage that 
"Services" will already be selected in the first table of "Keyboard Shortcuts 
Categories".  So you only need to navigate to the second "Keyboard Shortcuts 
Table", interact, then navigate to the entry for "New TextEdit Window 
Containing Selection" and check it.  I think you can simply move to the end of 
the table (VO+Shift+End or VO+Fn+Shift+Right Arrow on a laptop), then VO+Left 
Arrow to the column with the shortcut name.  You only have to VO+Up arrow a few 
times to get to the "New TextEdit Window Containing Selection" shortcut (in 
Snow Leopard).  VO+Left Arrow to the column with the check box and check it 
(VO+Space).  Then VO+Right Arrow past the description column to the column for 
shortcuts, press return, and type in your new shortcut.  Stop interacting with 
the table and use Command+W to close the window.

This is for Snow Leopard, since I have to keep running some programs that are 
not Lion compatible.  However, if you do this in Mail, you don't have to select 
any text for the "Services Preferences" in the submenu to show up.  In most 
applications you'll only get the Services submenu and the "Services 
Preferences" entry to show up when you have selected something.

I've also been reading that Lion has added some interesting new Automator 
features -- such as one to create ePub files from text:
• Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Automation Release Notes: Text to EPUB File
http://www.macosxautomation.com/lion/epub/index.html

There may also be ways of selecting web content through Automator, but I 
haven't gotten that far in my reading!

HTH.  P.S. Paul, I hope you get a lot of use from "New TextEdit Window from 
Selection" since, as Anne mentioned a day or two ago, it also works great for 
reading embedded tables and lists in Pages.  And the reason why using the 
Services menu is so slick and works for these functions as well as for reading 
web pages with accessibility problems, is that it strips things out to text.  
This doesn't happen when you do a copy and paste into a TextEdit window.  In 
addition, the Services menu processing doesn't take up as much memory the way 
that large copy functions do, since items get processed more in the fashion of 
unix pipes, for a much lower overhead on the system resources.

Cheers,

Esther
 
 
On Jul 24, 2011, at 09:38, John Panarese wrote:

>   The service is still there.  You might have to go into System Preferences 
> under the Keyboard pane in the shortcuts view to activate it again.  At 
> least, I had to do this to get it to work again.
> 
> Take Care
> John Panarese
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote:
> 
>> Hello, 
>> Has anyone discovered a good way to select a block of text from a web page 
>> on Lion so that the text can be pasted into another document? 
>> 
>> On Snow Leopard I used to press command+A to select all the text in the 
>> Safari window, then use the Safari service "new textedit window containing 
>> selection" which would copy the Safari text into a TextEdit window, and then 
>> copy the required text from the textedit window. Alas the service option 
>> "new TextEdit window containing selection" seems to have been removed in 
>> Lion. On Snow Leopard I was sometimes able to simply interact with the 
>> Safari page and use the arrow keys to select the desired text in the normal 
>> way. That does not seem to work on Lion either. 
>> 
>> So I tried the attached approach (which I had never used on Snow Leopard) 
>> and that does not seem to work on Lion either! 
>> 
>> I can manually create an empty textedit window and copy the Safari page into 
>> that and then select the desired text from there but that is hard work! I 
>> feel there should be an easier approach.
>> 
>> Many thanks for any ideas. 
>> 
>> Paul Hopewell 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Anne Robertson <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website
>>> Date: 23 March 2011 19:49:03 GMT
>>> To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & <[email protected]>
>>> Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility <[email protected]>
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Here's how to select part of a web page and copy it into a text document.
>>> 
>>> • Find the start point for your selection and set a hotspot 
>>> (VO-Shift-number), it must not be a link;
>>> • Find the end point for your selection and set a second hotspot, once 
>>> again, not a link;
>>> • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3);
>>> • Bring the mouse to the hotspot (VO-Cmd-F5);
>>> • Check that the mouse is actually on the hotspot (VO-F5);
>>> • Click the physical mouse or trackpad;
>>> • Go to first hotspot (VO-number);
>>> • Bring the mouse to the hotspot;
>>> • Check that the mouse is on the hotspot;
>>> • Hold down the Shift key and click the mouse or trackpad;
>>> • Press Cmd-C to copy the text.
>>> 
>>> If you've succeeded in highlighting text, you'll hear "Copy".
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 

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