Hi Esther, Many thanks for your usual excellent and comprehensive information. I have now gotten "New TextEdit WIndow containing selection" to work via a short cut in Safari and other applications on Lion. I am glad it is still there as I used it extensively on Snow Leopard where as you say it is extremely useful. Pity its not there by default!
I have also gotten a modified version of Anne Robertson's hotspot method to work on Lion. the key is to use Shift+Control+Command+Option+SpaceBar to do a mouse down on the first hotspot and then repeat this to do a mouse up on the second hotspot. All the best.... Paul Hopewell On 24 Jul 2011, at 22:01, Esther wrote: > Hello Paul, John, and Others, > > A quick way to get to the System Preferences for Services is to select some > text (doesn't have to be in Safari, can be in another application, such as > mail), then navigate to the Services menu on the menu bar (e.g., Control+F2 > or VO+m to the menu bar, navigate (VO+Right arrow) to the application, arrow > down and navigate to the Services menu option (quickly type "s e r" then > press return), then again quickly type "s e r" to move to the "Services > Preferences" option in the Services sub-menu, and press return. You'll be > placed directly in the Keyboard shortcuts pane that John mentions, with the > advantage that "Services" will already be selected in the first table of > "Keyboard Shortcuts Categories". So you only need to navigate to the second > "Keyboard Shortcuts Table", interact, then navigate to the entry for "New > TextEdit Window Containing Selection" and check it. I think you can simply > move to the end of the table (VO+Shift+End or VO+Fn+Shift+Right Arrow on a > laptop), then VO+Left Arrow to the column with the shortcut name. You only > have to VO+Up arrow a few times to get to the "New TextEdit Window Containing > Selection" shortcut (in Snow Leopard). VO+Left Arrow to the column with the > check box and check it (VO+Space). Then VO+Right Arrow past the description > column to the column for shortcuts, press return, and type in your new > shortcut. Stop interacting with the table and use Command+W to close the > window. > > This is for Snow Leopard, since I have to keep running some programs that are > not Lion compatible. However, if you do this in Mail, you don't have to > select any text for the "Services Preferences" in the submenu to show up. In > most applications you'll only get the Services submenu and the "Services > Preferences" entry to show up when you have selected something. > > I've also been reading that Lion has added some interesting new Automator > features -- such as one to create ePub files from text: > • Mac OS X 10.7 Lion Automation Release Notes: Text to EPUB File > http://www.macosxautomation.com/lion/epub/index.html > > There may also be ways of selecting web content through Automator, but I > haven't gotten that far in my reading! > > HTH. P.S. Paul, I hope you get a lot of use from "New TextEdit Window from > Selection" since, as Anne mentioned a day or two ago, it also works great for > reading embedded tables and lists in Pages. And the reason why using the > Services menu is so slick and works for these functions as well as for > reading web pages with accessibility problems, is that it strips things out > to text. This doesn't happen when you do a copy and paste into a TextEdit > window. In addition, the Services menu processing doesn't take up as much > memory the way that large copy functions do, since items get processed more > in the fashion of unix pipes, for a much lower overhead on the system > resources. > > Cheers, > > Esther > > > On Jul 24, 2011, at 09:38, John Panarese wrote: > >> The service is still there. You might have to go into System Preferences >> under the Keyboard pane in the shortcuts view to activate it again. At >> least, I had to do this to get it to work again. >> >> Take Care >> John Panarese >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> On Jul 24, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Paul Hopewell wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> Has anyone discovered a good way to select a block of text from a web page >>> on Lion so that the text can be pasted into another document? >>> >>> On Snow Leopard I used to press command+A to select all the text in the >>> Safari window, then use the Safari service "new textedit window containing >>> selection" which would copy the Safari text into a TextEdit window, and >>> then copy the required text from the textedit window. Alas the service >>> option "new TextEdit window containing selection" seems to have been >>> removed in Lion. On Snow Leopard I was sometimes able to simply interact >>> with the Safari page and use the arrow keys to select the desired text in >>> the normal way. That does not seem to work on Lion either. >>> >>> So I tried the attached approach (which I had never used on Snow Leopard) >>> and that does not seem to work on Lion either! >>> >>> I can manually create an empty textedit window and copy the Safari page >>> into that and then select the desired text from there but that is hard >>> work! I feel there should be an easier approach. >>> >>> Many thanks for any ideas. >>> >>> Paul Hopewell >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> From: Anne Robertson <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Selecting a block of text from a website >>>> Date: 23 March 2011 19:49:03 GMT >>>> To: Mac iOS Accessibility OSX & <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> Here's how to select part of a web page and copy it into a text document. >>>> >>>> • Find the start point for your selection and set a hotspot >>>> (VO-Shift-number), it must not be a link; >>>> • Find the end point for your selection and set a second hotspot, once >>>> again, not a link; >>>> • Turn cursor tracking off (VO-Shift-F3); >>>> • Bring the mouse to the hotspot (VO-Cmd-F5); >>>> • Check that the mouse is actually on the hotspot (VO-F5); >>>> • Click the physical mouse or trackpad; >>>> • Go to first hotspot (VO-number); >>>> • Bring the mouse to the hotspot; >>>> • Check that the mouse is on the hotspot; >>>> • Hold down the Shift key and click the mouse or trackpad; >>>> • Press Cmd-C to copy the text. >>>> >>>> If you've succeeded in highlighting text, you'll hear "Copy". >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Anne >>>> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the > Mac-Access forum at the following URL: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find a monthly formatted archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at the following URL: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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