Re: Bad-Elf

Mon, 05 Dec 2011 11:10:30 -0800

Perception of accessibility is subjective, however, to reiterate my prior post on this topic, I believe that for those using an iPhone 4S, Navigon 2.0 is absolutely no less accessible than the previous version. While its true that its no longer possible to cancel a route or change the speed profile while navigating without closing the app (a situation that I presume is unique to voiceOver dependent users), the trade-off is that GPS data such as velocity and coordinates have been rendered more easily readable.
Thanks to Sarah, I discovered that Navigon loads in less than half the time on my 4S than on her iPhone 4. Most likely related to the load time disparity is the fact that in rather extensive testing now, I've observed no voiceOver sluggishness whatsoever. 


Note that it is not necessary to remove Navigon (or any app for that matter) 
from the app switcher in order to close it.  This can also be accomplished 
by holding down the power
button until the shutdown dialog appears and then pressing and holding home 
until a little beep is emitted.


Best regards.
Geoff



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bubba" <[email protected]>

To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: Bad-Elf



I still use Navigant and the newest version it has some issue from
accessibility point but still very workable. Not as friendly as it used to
be but very workable. The biggest thing is I think is to just set up your
preface before you start your navigation and then you really don't need to

access them till you get to your destination and then all you need to do 
is

close the app all the way out even out of the app switcher.  HTH and JMT


Bubba
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 6:19 PM
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Bad-Elf

Oh never mind. Waze is not one of those. Sorry about that. but hopefully
someone  one else will like the app.

good luck with using your gps cradel.
On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Desi Noller wrote:


Thanks so much Sarah!  I don't remember seeing that one on the list, but

I'll definitely check again.  It has to be an App that stores its maps on
the device, and doesn't rely on WiFi.


Desi



On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


I am, and i use  it. I hear they are aware of the vo sluggishness but 
all

in all it is quite usable. If you double tap the speed limit thing you get
the options and stuff while you are navigating. but I would try waze if it
is on that list of apps.



Take care.
On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Desi Noller wrote:


Hi Sarah,

Are you updated to the latest version of Navigon?  That's the one I

heard people were having problems with.


Desi


On Dec 4, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:


Navigon is accessibil. You just have to work around some issues. It

take ssome getting used to and I  use it every day for my travels.


Take care.
On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:55 AM, Desi Noller wrote:


Hi Everyone,

Is anyone out there using the Bad-Elf GPS accessory with the iPod

Touch?  It needs to use a GPS App and I'm not sure which one will be the
most accessible with VoiceOver.  I had originally thought I would use

Navigon, but I have heard that the latest version isn't very accessible, 
and
I don't want to spend the money for it if it isn't going to work!  Any 
help

with this would be most appreciated!  The Bad-Elf web site has a list of
Apps that work with the Bad-Elf accessory, but I'm just not sure which one

would work best because the accessibility of the Apps isn't discussed 
since

Bad-Elf is a product that anyone can use.


Desi
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