lol. I think I joined sometime last year  but it is way too cool. sure it takes 
2 hands but it is still a work around. Not sure if it is documented anywhere 
though. 
On Mar 17, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> I'm glad this has been mentioned as its something I didn't know about or had 
> forgotten.
> 
> 
> On 18/03/2012, at 1:04 PM, Esther wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Just wanted to clarify that Sarah's speaking about a discovery that was 
>> discussed on list two years ago -- if you press one of the arrow keys along 
>> with a key from the top row of numbers on a laptop keyboard, and you have 
>> NumPad Commander enabled in VoiceOver Utility, then you can generate the 
>> same NumPad Commander sequence you'd get by pressing the corresponding 
>> number key on the numeric keypad of a full-size keyboard.  For example, 
>> let's say that you have NumPad Commander enabled under the "Commanders" menu 
>> of VoiceOver Utility on the "NumPad" tab, and that pressing the "1" key on 
>> the numeric keypad with no modifier keys is bound to the command to bring up 
>> item chooser menu -- which you can also invoke by pressing VO-I.  On a 
>> laptop keyboard if you press the "1" key from the top row of numbers and one 
>> of the arrow keys, you can also execute the command to bring up item chooser 
>> menu, or whatever VoiceOver command  you customized for that key in NumPad 
>> Commander.  This onl
 y
>  w
>> orks to give you the unmodified set of NumPad Commander actions, and you 
>> have to be careful which arrow key you choose to press. Sarah's using the 
>> right arrow key, because in some instances pressing the down arrow key can 
>> move your focus to a different location.
>> 
>> This esoteric way of getting NumPad Commander customized definitions to work 
>> when using keyboards without a separate NumPad works on both Intel Macs and 
>> the older PowerPC Macs.  So this is something you can use if you are running 
>> Leopard on an old Mac laptop.  If you have Snow Leopard or Lion, you may 
>> find it more convenient to use Keyboard Commander to bind a custom VoiceOver 
>> action to other keys. And you can add these combinations to your repertory 
>> if you want to use them on your current Mac  laptop.  It's not a full answer 
>> to Dane's appreciation for having NumPad Commander on the full keyboard, but 
>> explains what Sarah meant when she said that actually, she could access 
>> NumPad commander functions from her Mac laptop keyboard.
>> 
>> The old archived list posts from April 2010 have a discussion thread titled 
>> "Keyboard Shortcuts from Numpad Commander without a Numpad"
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 3:00 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>> 
>>> Actually it is. Just hold down the right arrow key and hit the numbers on 
>>> the number fow. I do this all the time if I need to do something quickly,.
>>> 
>>> Take care all.
>>> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Glad you can still get the USB keyboard, the "Num Pad Commander" in VO 
>>>> wouldn't be any use without one <smile>.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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