Possibly Dane  misheard my reference to RNID, that is , Royal National
Institute for the Deaf   and thought I was talking about than  RNIB - Royal
National Institute of blind People. I find it hard to hear the difference
with a Screenreader myself. I know RNID have changed their name to something
like Action on Hearing but I could not remember what it was.   This is why I
used their old name and possibly confused people.

David 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
Sent: 19 April 2012 10:10
To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
Subject: Re: Earphone Volume Booster Amplifier For iPhone

Why blind people specifically?
On 19 Apr 2012, at 07:41, Dane Trethowan wrote:

> Yep your points are well taken but let's be frank about this, blind people
- in general - couldn't give a stuff about those who have a hearing
impairment until it happens to them.
> 
> A general comment and observation <smile>.
> 
> 
> On 19/04/2012, at 4:22 PM, David Griffith wrote:
> 
>> As someone who has borderline severe hearing loss I can assure you I 
>> need loud headphone.
>> 
>> My sister is in the same position and "quiet" devices and headphones 
>> are useful to us as the "chocolate teapot" or the proverbial rubber
shovel.
>> 
>> If we are not allowed a powerful headphone we are completely excluded 
>> from mainstream devices. Routinely we use devices at top volume and 
>> the headphone response is often crucial in determining whether it is 
>> usable or not's
>> 
>> What annoys me sometimes is that people believe it is somehow a 
>> matter of choice for people like us. Neither my sister nor myself 
>> will buy loop headphones from the RNID now in the UK because they are 
>> so useless in terms of volumes. What is the  point of shelling out 
>> £35 for a pair of headphones when the result is that you cannot hear 
>> the talking book you are listening to at all?
>> 
>> The problem here is that such organisations are so concerned with 
>> preventing the onset of hearing loss amongst the hearing population 
>> they are completely losing sight  of their main purpose, supporting 
>> the needs of people who are already hearing impaired, in my case since
birth.
>> 
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Glenn
>> Sent: 19 April 2012 03:21
>> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility
>> Subject: Re: Earphone Volume Booster Amplifier For iPhone
>> 
>> I've often speculated that such amplifiers contribute to yet even 
>> further hearing loss, like loud headphones can damage the hearing of 
>> someone with normal hearing, it seems to me that it would do similar 
>> damage to someone with hearing loss.
>> I have listened to music too loud in  the past, and I have tinnitus, 
>> and I now avoid headphones.
>> Glenn
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:11 AM
>> Subject: Earphone Volume Booster Amplifier For iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> I received this amplifier in the mail today and said I'd write to the 
>> list with my findings.
>> 
>> Not much needs to be said, amp does all it claims to do.
>> 
>> The device looks like a small fuse holder with a clip on the back for 
>> attachment to a pocket or collar.  At one end is a lead for plugging 
>> into the dock of your iPhone/iPod whilst the socket for headphone 
>> connection is at the other.
>> 
>> The controls are simple enough, a volume up and down, pause control 
>> in the middle with track back and forward buttons on the outside of the
row.
>> 
>> This amplifier gives you plenty of volume boost for your headphones 
>> if needed and perhaps I can illustrate what I mean by saying that I 
>> can hear the iPhone through my top of the line Senhiser model, 
>> normally I would only get this type of volume out of my Hi-Fi 
>> amplifier.  I also have a 90% hearing loss so and - through these 
>> headphones - my iPhone/iPod can barely be heard by me at normal volume
levels given out by these devices.
>> 
>> I paid $25.00 for this amplifier and that to me is well worth the money.
>> 
>> For Australian customers you can find the amp at 
>> <http://www.warcom.com.au/products/20124_fiio_e1_earphone_volume_boos
>> ter_amp
>> lifier_for_iphone_white>
>> 
>> For those living outside Australia? I'm not sure whether the online 
>> shop at the above link wil ship internationally but give them a try, 
>> I've found Warcom pretty good to deal with.  Alternatively perhaps a 
>> few minutes with Google will track this amplifier down at other sites
world-wide.
>> 
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