I think what happens is that when your system is loaded and you're used to navigating in VoiceOver fairly fast, you focus lags the actual commands you're giving. I had to Command-tab away from Keynote and come back to check these settings. Alternatively, if I can interact, or navigate with right arrow or VO-right and interact as VoiceOver starts reading off the export pane options, I'll get the Keynote toolbar item palette options.
As I said, you can actually give a presentation in Skim in presentation mode. You can also read all the PowerPoint information in Keynote as long as you're not playing back, but then you have to move through the individual slides. Bryan's correct that Keynote is accessible -- except when you use the player to go through the entire presentation. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Apr 22, 2012, at 12:20 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Is it just me or does sometimes the focus dispappear and you have to cmd tab > away from and back to keynote in order to even see the tool bar? otherwise > you get font and the stuff that was n the layout area. lol! Yeah I got it to > work aalthugh the pdf version looks awful it is easy to read. lol. thanks. > On Apr 22, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi Sarah, >> >> Yes, this is non-standard. There are two ways you can get to the Export >> options: through File > Export or through Share > Export with both File and >> Share as menu on the Keynote menu bar. What happens is that focus seems to >> be on a toolbar button when you bring up the Export options, and VoiceOver >> starts reading the selections for the QuickTime setting. If you navigate >> (VO-Right or Right arrow) and interact, you'll get the other options. You're >> not exactly in the menu, since you can't exit by pressing escape instead of >> the cancel button. If you wait till the entire message about creating a >> quicktime movie is announced, then VO-Right. You'll hear VoiceOver say >> "toolbar". But who waits for this? And you can VO-Right or Right arrow at >> any time and interact. Then you'll be able to navigate to the options. >> >> Presumably, as well as reading the notes from the class powerpoint files, >> you can also play around with using export to find the best formats for your >> own presentation. >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Apr 22, 2012, at 11:48 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Interesting. when I go to the tool bar I don't see file. I see play View >>> menu button Guides menu button Themes menu button Masters menu button Text >>> Box button Shapes menu button Table button Charts menu button Comment >>> buttonShare button Mask dimmed button Alpha dimmed buttonGroup dimmed >>> button Ungroup dimmed button Front button Back button more toolbar items >>> pop up button >>> >>> No file. >>> >>> Oh I see the tool bar item pallet. This is a different layout then apple >>> has used in the past. I exported as an html. we'll see how this goes. >>> HOpefully I'll be able to view the notes she presented to us well lol! >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 2:22 PM, Esther wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sarah, >>>> >>>> Exporting to QuickTime is only one of the exporting options under Pages. >>>> After you select "Export…" under Keynote's File menu, interact. You'll >>>> hear VoiceOver say "Keynote toolbar item palette". The six options you >>>> can choose are Quicktime, PPT, PDF, Images, HTML, and iPod. I just tried >>>> opening a PowerPoint presentation in Keynote, then going to the File menu >>>> on the toolbar, selecting "Export", and choosing "PDF" from the toolbar >>>> item palette options. I accepted all the defaults and created a PDF file. >>>> Then I opened the PDF file in Skim and read all the slides. If I wanted >>>> to run this as a presentation, I could have gone to the View menu for Skim >>>> on the menu bar and selected "Presentation Options" (shortcut >>>> Command-Control-T), which would let me set up page transitions and >>>> synchronization with notes (but I didn't choose to export notes -- just >>>> took the defaults). I could enter presentation mode in Skim with >>>> Command-Option-P (also in the View menu). On a Mac that supports an >>>> infrared remote (not the MacBook Air models, but the MacBook Pro will >>>> support this), I can use the remote to advance or control my presentation. >>>> Otherwise I use the arrow keys. I'm not sure that I'd want to accept all >>>> the default export options now that I've done this -- it's a pain to hear >>>> VoiceOver read "Sunday, April 22, 2012" at the bottom of each slide. And >>>> I found an actual PowerPoint presentation to try this on -- one that was >>>> constructed under PowerPoint and not in Keynote. >>>> >>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>> >>>> Esther >>>> >>>> On Apr 22, 2012, at 10:36 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>>> >>>>> Well as to exporting it says this >>>>> >>>>> Create a QuickTime movie that can be viewed on Macs and Windows computers. >>>>> >>>>> that's not what i want. I want to export this thing to other then pptx. >>>>> and this is in keynote. >>>>> >>>>> Help? >>>>> On Apr 21, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Esther wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Bryan, >>>>>> >>>>>> You wrote: >>>>>>> Haven't tried playing a slide show on the IOS version of keynote yet. >>>>>>> Not sure what to suggest if you need to use slide show mode. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wonder about this. As I mentioned to Sarah, somewhat serendipitously, >>>>>> I was sent a .pps attachment to an email just recently. If you open >>>>>> this up on an iPad, where you are reading mail in landscape mode, the >>>>>> slides come up as images one to a screen in Quick Look mode. You can do >>>>>> a three-finger scroll to move to the next one, and VoiceOver will tell >>>>>> you the page you are on. You can read the text on each slide, and notes >>>>>> if they appear on the bottom. Handles multiple languages (if you have >>>>>> this in your rotor settings -- it happened that the attachment sent to >>>>>> me was not in English). The iPad 2 and the current iPad (just called >>>>>> "iPad" instead of version 3), both are supposed to support mirroring of >>>>>> what's on the screen by default when used with the VGA or HDMI connector >>>>>> to the dock, to project what's on the screen to a projector or high >>>>>> definition display. If you presenting for a class, you could just run >>>>>> VoiceOver on the displayed attachment and scroll through the sli >>>>> de >>>>>> s. You'd get all the information in the text on the slides. I haven't >>>>>> tried mailing myself a Keynote presentation as an attachment. I wonder >>>>>> if it would also let you view it in Quick Look mode without opening in >>>>>> Keynote?. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you wanted to be especially discreet, you could wear one of the >>>>>> single ear Bluetooth headsets, like the BlueAnt Q2 or Jawbone Era or >>>>>> Icon. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just some thoughts. I don't remember whether the 4S supports device >>>>>> mirroring through a VGA connector in the dock -- I think it might. I >>>>>> know the iPhone 4 does not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Esther >>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
