Now, a question on recovery. When I held down option while starting it
up, it made the chime, and I waited a bit to see if vo would turn on.
It didn't, and cmd+f5 wouldn't do it, either. I did this out of
curiosity just to see if it'd work, because I know there may come a
time when I need it. Thoughts? Thanks!

On 7/2/12, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
> Actually I can back up my recovery disk via carbon copy  clowned. See  my
> earlier post on my podcast  at http://tffp.marrie.org/374 for a very
> detailed explanation on CCC as I call it.
>
> Take care and enjoy.
> On Jul 2, 2012, at 12:45 PM, Esther wrote:
>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> While you can partition a new hard drive fairly easily with Disk Utility
>> by selecting the drive and going to the "Partition" tab, you might
>> consider just getting a dedicated hard drive for Time Machine backups.
>> Time Machine will fill up the available space, deleting the oldest backups
>> as it runs out of room, which is why you want to either partition the
>> drive or dedicate a drive if you are going to continue using it over time.
>>  And this is also why you don't want to store other files in the same
>> location if you continue to run Time Machine and run out of space -- since
>> these other, non-Time Machine files, can eventually be overwritten when
>> this happens.
>>
>> Starting up Time Machine can be as simple as attaching a brand new hard
>> drive (that is formatted for Mac's file system) and answering the prompt
>> for "Do you want to use this drive for Time Machine backups?", which
>> includes an option for deciding later if you don't want to decide now.
>>
>> I like to keep a bootable clone of my current operating system.  You can
>> create this with either SuperDuper! or Carbon Copy Cloner. This lets you
>> get a working system up right away by attaching the cloned hard drive, and
>> booting up while holding the "Option" key.  Then, once you've heard the
>> chime and activity stop after 10 or 15 seconds, press either the right or
>> left arrow key followed by the return key to boot from your clone.  The
>> only amendment for Lion is that your clone won't include the Lion recovery
>> partition, but you can create a separate recovery drive if you read the
>> TidBITS article, "Lion Recovery Disk Assistant Creates External Recovery
>> Drives":
>> http://tidbits.com/article/12411
>>
>> You can read details about how to create a bootable clone in Lynne's blog
>> article from last year:
>> • "How to copy (Backup), (Clone) Your System Start Volume"
>> http://maciosaccessdotnet.wordpress.com/2011/07/07/mac-osx-system-backup/
>>
>> You can also get even more extensive details by taking advantage of your
>> list member's 80% discount, and getting the "Take Control of Backing Up
>> Your Mac" volume. I'll quote from a recent post by Travis about the two
>> (off-list) contact points for doing this. "So, anyone is welcome to
>> purchase directly from support at mac-access.net, or myself
>> ([email protected]) and you will get the same books at the same prices.
>> With the added caveat that if you purchase through me, I do not have the
>> facilities to offer the downloadable bookshelf that Gordon and Lynne
>> maintain, so you will need to contact them to get that setup after the
>> transaction is complete."  The reference to the downloadable bookshelf is
>> way of getting access to a bookshelf for the most recent copies of your
>> book purchases that is more accessible than the main TidBITS site.  This
>> is useful if you want to get another version (e.g. ePub for reading on
>> your mobile device) or access to a later version after your purchase.
>> Since Lynne and Gordon are away at Wimbledon at present, setups for the
>> bookshelf access, or processing the orders through them might take a bit
>> longer.  They usually handle the non-U.S. orders and Travis handles the
>> U.S. ones.
>>
>> You can read more about the Take Control book on backups and download a
>> PDF sample of the content here:
>> http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/backing-up
>>
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:56 AM, josh gregory wrote:
>>
>>> Oh wow... very interesting. And a good end to it, too. So this brings
>>> up a question: How do you go about setting up time machine? I've
>>> looked, and it looks like the only real way to do it is by
>>> partitioning a part of the hard drive, which I'm not keen on just yet.
>>> Thoughts? Thanks!
>>>
>>> On 7/2/12, Sarah Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I think I learned a lot from this mess that happened to this poor guy..
>>>> and
>>>> there are some good products as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.macworld.com/article/1167339/macbook_woe_a_tale_of_a_near_mac_disaster_averted_by_good_backups.html#lsrc.rss_howto
>>>>
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