Ah, I get it now. Thanks Esther *smile* -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Esther Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012 9:09 AM To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility Subject: Re: Mouse keys
Hi Paula and Others, Did my earlier post not show up on the list? It was: "Moving your cursor with Mouse Keys as an accessibility work around for Java Preferences [was Re: changing tab group in java preferences using Voiceover]" Here's the link to the Web Archive page that contains the post: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg11288.html The quick description is that you go to System Preferences > Universal Access > Mouse & Trackpad tab and check the box that lets you press the option key five times to turn Mouse Keys on and off. Then you navigate to the "Java Preferences" heading in the title bar of that application. You press your option key 5 times to turn Mouse Keys on, and use the right hand side of your keyboard to move by pixels, up, down, left, right or diagonally. The central position is the "i" key, which was the number "5" key when Mac laptops supported embedded numpads. It's easy to remember, because the "7 8 9" keys on the number key row are the "7 8 9" keys on that keypad, so the key below the "8" key is your central "5" key -- the "i" key. In Mouse Keys mode, each press of the key to the right, left, up, down, or diagonally from the "i" key moves your mouse cursor one screen pixel in that direction. It just takes a lot of key presses! So you start from the Java Preferences heading in the title bar, route your mouse cursor there with VO-Command-F5, and then turn Mouse Keys on. You then move down by tapping the "k" key until you hear "Network radio button" announced -- or whatever the name of the tab key is. That signifies that your cursor is on top of the tab. To click it, press your "i" key. To move left to the "Security" tab, you start pressing the "u" key until you hear "Security radio button". Again, you click the tab by pressing your "i" key. It's about 35 presses down and 10 presses left to get to the Security tab. To exit Mouse Keys, press the Option key 5 times again. This only works with the VoiceOver announcements if you have previously set up your Verbosity Announcements tab in VoiceOver Utility to speak what is under the mouse after a delay by checking that box, and setting your delay time to 0 seconds. You'll notice that the accessibility bug is present in the VoiceOver announcements with Mouse Keys, too. You get an announcement that you've moved into whatever is the currently selected tab, even though you haven't actually reached the tab area. My post has more details about using Mouse Keys in general. The main thing for desktop mac users or anyone who uses a full-size keyboard with numpad is that you should not have both NumPad Commander and Mouse Keys turned on at the same time, since the keypad definitions will conflict. On a full-size keyboard you use the actual numeric keypad, and press the "2" key to move down, the "8" key to move up, the "4" key to move left, and the "6" key to move right. And you click with the "5" key. Maybe one of these combinations will simply not work now, but the first time I tried this and had Numpad Commander on, the Command, Control, and Option keys for VoiceOver stopped working until I turned Mouse Keys off. And Josh, on a Mac the right click of a mouse button is a Control-Click. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:28 PM, josh gregory wrote: > This would be neat in general! I could then right click and all that > stuff sighted ppl do with a mouse. :) > > On 7/23/12, Paula Hobley <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi there >> >> >> >> I just read Esther's post on changing tabs in Java preferences that she >> wrote to Gordon. In it, it mentions mouse keys. How do I move the mouse >> pointer with VO? I'm thinking this might be easier than moving my finger >> around the track pad to find the security tab because I seem to struggle to >> find anything when I move my finger around the track pad. >> >> >> >> Thanks for any help with this. >> >> >> >> Paula >> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! 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