I prefer Eloquence on any computer I use. It is most responsive, and intelligible, and offers privacy without having to use headphones, because non experienced users have to try too hard to understand it. I like to listen to my speech fast, and the real sounding voices have a lot of trouble enunciating at fast speeds. It is my preferred voice on Linux as well. Glenn
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn & her faithful furry friends" <[email protected]> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 8:24 AM Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools;A Passionate Rant [Was "so wish apple had done this"] > well to me the HQ voices are perfectly usable..I use Samantha on my mac > and the changing pitch, even though somewhat annoying does not really > bother me all that much to the point of not using them. And please, don't > wish for Eloquence on the mac, that's an insult! I know Apple won't even > think about it thank God! > On Sep 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Debbie April Yuille > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Try using alex. That voice works great for me. When it changes pitch you >> can >> still understand it quite well. >> >> I don't think Voice over will ever start using Eloquence as it's not in >> development anymore. Maybe the vocalisor pitch problem wil be corrected >> in >> the future. Then Vocaliser will be really good. >> >> Debbie >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of william lomas >> Sent: Sunday, 30 September 2012 10:10 PM >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Making The Most Of Your Accessible Tools; A Passionate Rant >> [Was "so wish apple had done this"] >> >> just wish the HQ voices didn't keep changing pitch. they are unusable >> really. not saying ungrateful, just that the web to me seems clunky when >> hiding elements for us would make it a smoother experience >> >> On 30 Sep 2012, at 11:15, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I am greatful for all this as well. >>> >>> On 30/09/2012 07:03, Lyn & her faithful furry friends wrote: >>>>> I whole-heartedly agree with your post Lynne..couldn't have said it >> better. >>>>> all I have to say is thank you Apple for your commitment to making >>>>> your >> products accessible to everyone regardless of whether they are disabled >> or >> not. I have been able to visualise things a lot more ever since I've been >> using a mac. I know how the screen is laid out just like any sighted >> person, unlike with the other screen readers which constantly use >> virtualisation. Well basically, a big thank you and all my gratitude to >> Apple for making accessibility a right and not something you should fork >> out >> tons of money for. I am grateful for being able to buy a computer, a >> phone.. >> that is usable right out of the box without the assistance of a sighted >> person. I am grateful for being able to buy this equipment at the same >> price >> a sighted person buys it so yes, thank you Apple for all the hard work. >> Nothing is perfect and I am sure things can only improve so let's all be >> patient and as Lynne rightly said, report problems to Apple, this is the >> only way they will know what problems >>> we are >>> having. >>>>> Never in a million years will I go back to using other screen readers >> and the other platform. >>>>> >>>>> Take care all, >>>>> >>>>> Lyn, Canelle & Epi >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 29, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mrs. Lynnette Annabel Smith >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Missy >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that is a fair and reasonable perspective. I'm certainly not >> trying to involve anybody in a "My toy's better than yours" debate. What >> people do and how they choose to do it is entirely down to their choice. >> All >> I can say in conclusion to this is that this group is here for all of >> those >> people who share a desire and even a passion to see Apple's products >> improve. Also those who are keen to use and, in many cases, learn to use >> the >> products. Whatever your skill level and whatever your application for >> Apple's products may be, you are very welcome here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lynne >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Sep 2012, at 18:53, "Missy Hoppe" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> . Very well said! I'll be the first to admit that I don't take full >> advantage of all the tips and tricks that could make web >>>>>> browsing easier, but I don't blaim apple or other screen reader >> developers. It's entirely my fault if I'm too lazy or >>>>>> stubborn to take the time to learn how to use web browsers properly. >>>>>> It >> always frustrates me when I see any product being >>>>>> bashed for seemingly no good reason. True, there are things I >> personally don't use, but I'm willing to respect others' rights >>>>>> or desire to use such products. I don't know if this is making any >> sense or not, but in a nut shell, all I'm trying to say is >>>>>> that I agree with you 100%. 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