The problem with Safari and Voiceover on the Mac, the behaviour is so random.
The main problem is buffering. Sometimes I can go back a page and VO see's everything, other times I have to switch VO off (VO + F5) and start it back up again and the buffer is magically refreshed and everything is visible in the rotor again. Other times, I find Voiceover has not interacted with the HTML text and instead is on the toolbar. Still very buggy Chris On 11 Nov 2012, at 21:42, Sean Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > All. > > It appears that we need to identify some good troubleshooting tips on Safari > when we get these strange issues. Such as: Web site, download link, version > of OS, period of time you waited before reloading the page or Voice-Over. > ETC. > > I do not think this is an hardware issue. It seems to be more a software > problem. You have to remember that there is a lot of events triggering inside > safari and Voice-Over. If they get out of sync, strange behaviours can occur. > Identifying the pattern and sequences this occurs will assist the Apple folks. > > I am not sure if the development tools of Safari will ell as well. > > So what I suggest if the issue occurs for you again. write up the steps that > you used to get to the page and what you used to resolve it. By doing this, > then others can try to reproduce it. > > For example: > > Mac Mountain Lion > Mac Version: xx.xx.xx. > Using default safari options. > > 1. Perform a google search using "Australian High Schools". > 2. Pressed vo cmd h to jump to the first search item. > 3. Pressed enter to load the page. > 4. Waited 60 secs for the page to load. > 5. Press vo u to bring up the roter options and saw no links, headers or > elements on page. > 6. Pressed escape to exit roter. > 7. Navigated page with vo right arrow and saw headers. > 8. Press cmd r to refresh page and repeated step 5. Everything worked fine. > > This type of information will assist in narrowing down the problem. It could > be the method being used in using safari. Note, the above is an example only. > > > > Sean > On 09/11/2012, at 4:04 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Having an odd issue with chromevox at the moment, it doesn't speak if >> voiceover is turned on, the 2 used to work ok together. Chrome doesn't have >> the busy problem but it does have some odd quirks. Voiceover is unable to >> read certain list boxes, and if you come across some unlabeled links, >> voiceover does not read the url of the link so you have no idea what it is, >> in safari it provides this information. Over all though, chrome works pretty >> well. >> On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: >> >>> Interestingly, the "busy, busy, busy" annoyance in Safari went away when I >>> upgraded to ML. The trade-off was that Bento has now taken over the "busy, >>> busy, busy" behavior. >>> >>> Regarding Chrome: I've been using it with ChromeVox a lot lately as one of >>> my classes is neck-deep into Google Docs and I've found Chrome to offer the >>> best GDocs experience. >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Mike Arrigo <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have not updated to mountain lion yet one of my mac minis will not run >>>> it, but the other mini and macbook will, just a matter of finding time to >>>> do it. Anyway, with 10.7.5 and the newest safari, there are times when >>>> voiceover gets stuck in it's busy, busy loop and I do need to turn >>>> voiceover off and back on to access the page. Another thing that happens >>>> at times, and it seems kind of random is, a page will load, I will either >>>> search for something on the page or try to navigate to something such as a >>>> heading, voiceover will act like the search text was not found and will >>>> say next heading not found. If I press command+r to reload the page it >>>> works fine. 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