Hi Chris, If you check the box for the Services menu option, "New TextEdit window containing selection" to make this one of your active service menu options, then optionally assign a shortcut to this, you can select the page containing your document (or even the whole paper), and then choose the "New TextEdit window containing selection" option from the Services menu, and VoiceOver will read everything you selected in a TextEdit Window, including any embedded tables or lists. This will work to read tables in Pages, Nisus Writer Pro, etc. I've posted pretty extensively about this on both the Mac-access list and on the Macvisionaries list, Using the built-in Services menu option, as opposed to trying to copy and paste selected text, removes non-text elements in your selection, including embedding control characters used by tables that apparently keep VoiceOver from separately reading and navigating the tables.
I'm not at my computer now, so please do an archive search if you want explicit, step-by-step instructions. The services menu shortcuts are under System Preferences > keyboard but the fast way to get exactly to the right location in the keyboard shortcuts pane, with the entry for services already selected in the first table, is to go to the Services menu on your menu bar from any application, and arrow down to "Services Preferences". Start there, navigate to the second table so you can check this services menu option, and optionally assign it a shortcut key. HTH. Cheers, Esther On Nov 27, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Josh Gregory <[email protected]> wrote: > I am pretty sure the tables and voiceover have been a long-standing issue > with the Mac. I knew that it couldn't read the titles of tables, but I > didn't know that In certain cases it couldn't read the actual data. I'm sorry > I'm not posting anything helpful here, I'm just saying that I know how you > feel when it comes to things like this. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:37 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello. >> I am hoping that someone from Mac-Access can help me. >> >> I have been writing a document in Pages regarding a few topics which I am >> researching. One of the things that I need to accomplish is to insert a >> table into my document. I have correctly inserted the table at the position >> of my insertion point, and then proceeded to enter the table's data. I am >> determining however that Voiceover is refusing to read anything within the >> table area. If I use my arrow keys to navigate through the document, I only >> hear "new line" when the table is found. >> >> I have attempted using VO+R as well as VO+Command+C in order to better >> understand where I am located in the table. I have also tried tabbing and >> Shift+tabbing through the document, in hope of finding something >> identifiable. Finally, I have even tried pressing CTRL+Command+T to move to >> the next table. This presented no success. >> >> I have attempted to create tables with Pages as well as with Text Edit and >> have experienced this strange behavior using both applications. Any help >> with this issue would be appreciated. Have a pleasant day. >> >> Cordially, >> Chris Gilland. >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> [email protected] >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free! > > Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting > the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free! Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
