Yup, Have done, and went into more detail fore them. I have also sent it via iTunes Feedback too.
So maybe we'll see an improvement in version 12! Chris On 30 Nov 2012, at 10:44, Dónal Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote: > Morning Chris, > > A superb summary. Have you ever thought of passing this very information on > to Apple via the accessibility team? It would probably be ignored but worth > it nonetheless in my view. > > Dónal > On 30 Nov 2012, at 09:38, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Overall, iTunes 11 is certainly no worse than iTunes 10 on the Mac when it >> comes to accessibility. However, Apple could do more to improve Voiceover >> support (I can't comment on Windows, as not tested it there yet). >> >> The first item/button Voiceover lands on is the rewind button, and there is >> a play button and a next button. So we have a rewind and a next button, so >> some people might be confused by the lack of a previous button or a forward >> button. So perhaps the rewind and next buttons should be labelled as >> "previous/rewind button and a next/forward button. >> >> The next item which puzzles me is the "iCloud button", what does this >> actually do? When pressing it with voiceover, it does not indicate if it is >> on or off or if anything has happened when it is pressed. >> >> My next issue relates to the 7 radio buttons, the last radio button is read >> out as "Radio radio button 7 of 7". Hearing the words Radio radio button is >> not exactly intuitive, and I am sure these buttons are actually tabs and not >> web page style radio buttons. So would it not be better if Voiceover read >> out these 7 buttons as tabs? then the last tab could be read out as "Radio >> tab 7 of 7". Note: the iTunes store uses tabs, so replacing radio buttons >> with tabs would give iTunes 11 a more consistent look and feel when it comes >> to navigating with a screen reader. >> >> Finally there is a iTunes Store button, I think it would be more intuitive >> if the button was read out as "Go to iTunes Store button" Then when you are >> in the iTunes Store, the button is read out as "Go back to Library button", >> instead of "Library menu button". Calling this a menu button gives the >> impression a menu is about to appear if you press it. >> >> After opening the iTunes Store I am greeted with a back and next button for >> the store navigation, then there are a series of menu buttons (as voiceover >> describes them) which are My iTunes Account, iTunes Store home menu button, >> Music menu button, Films menu button etc. Would it not be better to have >> these menu buttons labelled as tabs? >> >> I also think the home page of the iTunes store is a bit of a mess for screen >> reader users. For starters the HTML does not follow W3C web accessibility >> guidelines when it comes to heading structure. For example there are >> heading 3 items, and heading 5, but there are no heading 1 or 2. It breaks >> accessibility when heading levels are skipped. >> >> The document structure does not follow how it is laid out visually either. >> >> The screen reader user hears the headings in the following sequence: >> >> Heading 3 Music (this should be a heading 2, and there should be a heading 1 >> prior to it labelled iTunes Store Home") >> >> Heading 3 Films (this should be a heading 2) >> >> TV programmes (this should be a heading 2) >> >> Heading 3 Apps (this should be a heading 2) >> >> Heading 3 Late Night Music on TV (should this not be listed under Music or >> under Feature?) >> >> Heading 3 Genius Recommendations (should this not be a heading 2?) >> >> Heading 3 Books (should this not be a heading 2? >> >> Heading 3 Quick Links (should this not be a heading 2?) >> >> Heading 3 Top Singles (should this not be a sub heading under Music? and the >> see all link appears to have gone) >> >> Heading 3 Top Albums ((should this not be a sub heading under Music? and >> the see all link appears to have gone) >> >> Heading 3 Top Films (should this not be listed under Films? see all has gone) >> >> Heading 3 TOP TV (voiceover reads this as T O P instead of top, and should >> it not be listed as a sub heading under TV programmes? see all has gone) >> >> Heading 3 Top Paid Apps (should this not be listed as a sub heading under >> Apps?) >> >> Heading 3 Top Free Apps (should this not be a sub heading under Apps?) >> >> Heading 3 Top Books (Should this not be listed as a sub heading under Books?) >> >> The above is just a few examples, if you work your way through the iTunes >> store, you will find many other. I feel the order of the headings does not >> match how the layout works visually. >> >> Chris >> >> On 30 Nov 2012, at 03:50, amy gilbert <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> hi all, i've got too many emails to check if there's already been a topic >>> posted on this, but what do you all think of itunes 11? it's going to take >>> me a while to get used to the new layout, but the layout is better, more >>> simplified, and it seems a bit more responsive or is that me? amy >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum >>> at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>> >>> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >>> and worm-free! >>> >>> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >>> the list website at: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> >> >> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >> >> To reply to this post, please address your message to >> [email protected] >> >> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at >> either the list's own dedicated web archive: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >> or at the public Mail Archive: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >> >> The Mac-Access mailing list is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus >> and worm-free! >> >> Please remember to update your membership options periodically by visiting >> the list website at: >> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > > Dr. Dónal Fitzpatrick, > School of Computing, > Dublin City University, > Glasnevin, > Dublin 9, Ireland > Tel. +353-(0)1-700-8929 > fax: +353-(0)1-700-5442 > email: dfitzpat (at) computing.dcu.ie > > Email Disclaimer > "This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are > intended solely for use by the addressee. 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