Hi John,

Again you're correct. Sorry my explanation was not as clear as I thought.

Take care
James
On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:00, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:

   I would leave that question to someone more versed with that.  The problem, 
though, would be that it still would not load in Safe Mode.  Single User mode 
would probably be the best avenue for that.


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On Feb 27, 2013, at 11:51 AM, JAMES AUSTIN <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> You're right, in SUM, VO does not load. I woner if there would be a way of 
> installing  SpeakUP or some other flavour of a Linux/UNIX Screen Reader given 
> that OS X is built on and is UNIX compliant. But I think that might be 
> outside of the scope of this list.
> 
> James 
> On 27 Feb 2013, at 16:47, John Panarese <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure about the Braille display.  I know VoiceOver does not load at 
> all.  When OS X safe-boots, it doesn't load any third-party items, such as 
> KEXTs, launch agents, launch daemons, startup items, fonts, any user login 
> items, or any user-specific launch agents.
> When you are in Save Mode, nothing but the bare essentials load.  This is 
> done for specific troubleshooting and you can't turn on any services through 
> Safe Mode.  You probably can in Single User mode, but this is a terminal line 
> only interface, and,a again, I don't believe VO loads.
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:32 AM, JAMES AUSTIN <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Will,
>> 
>> I think I read somewhere that although sound drivers are not loaded in safe 
>> mode, a Braille Display should work with VO. I could have imagined reading 
>> this though.
>> 
>> Also, I am not sure if your problems are due exclusively to the fact that 
>> you have an SSD? I would think that there are plenty of folks who have an 
>> SSD drive in their Macs running something other than OS X. If this is 
>> exclusively an SSD issue though hopefully it will get sorted.
>> 
>> Out of interest, have you tried booting into a bootable back up of OS X and 
>> then tried partitioning your drive with  an MS DOS partition?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Take care
>> James
>> On 27 Feb 2013, at 15:02, William Lomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> hi all when holding down shift on a mac at boot up we get in to safe mode 
>> yet voiceover does not work?
>> i read this can solve my disc problem with bootcamp not being able to 
>> partition. if flash ssd's are so unable to perform partitioning i worry in 
>> case i may in future possess a bigger mac hd and need to partition
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