Objective c is the language of choice for apple, but Xcode supports other languages as well. I (for instance) have pascal, python, java, ruby, and probably a few others installed, and they do work, but honestly, apple isn't real gunho for other languages it seems, and the whole gui builder thing really irritates me. Siunce tiger, I've been complaining how unusable the gui creator is for vo users, and although it has gotten better with each release, it's still impossible for a vo user to build a gui interface from scratch w/o sighted assistance. There's alternatives, such as renaissance, java (I used to use java to create my gui interfaces for me, since the grid layout automatically takes care of gui layout for you) but apple no longer has seamless integration of java into Xcode. It can still be done, but it's no longer the smooth seamless process it used to be. As a result, I'm still hunting for an alternative to Xcode. I suspect I'll never find one, but I keep looking anyhow. For simple programs though, java still works quite well, since as pointed out above, guis can be created with very little fuss, and it just works. Something I can't say for Objective C and it's Xcode interface. <sigh> I'm strongly of the opinion that apple doesn't expect vi developers, so doesn't really do anything to support us. They obviously know we're out here, but apparently, we're such a small cross section, they must honestly feel the extra effort it would take to make things completely usable for us isn't worth the time it would take to do so, and so we're left scrambling for alternatives to do the job. Don't get me wrong, Apple has done wonderful for the vi user, and I expect even better things from them in the future, as does everyone I know who uses apple products. I can't thank apple enough for removing the access barrier which did wonders for reducing cost for those of us who don't have state agencies to purchase equipment for us, but I honestly believe that vi programmers just aren't on apple's radar, specifically because there's so few of us out here. Of course, that kind of makes the whole thing self replicating, no tools that work for vi users, means no vi programmers can develop for the platform, which eliminates the need for vi accessible development tools, and so on. <sigh>. I would love to be proved wrong on this point, but judging from what I've seen since 2005, I can't see any other interpretation for the available information/behavior I've personally obtained/observed. It's frustrating, but it's the state of things, so those of us who enjoy the programming end of things, just have to keep muddling along turning out what we can, and continue to hope we can manage despite the issues.

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