Chris, My thought was that if it is possible, then if enough of expressed an interest to Apple, perhaps they could obtain the license from IBM to include it. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Eloquence, was Re: alex on the iphone
This is kind of a gray area and a bit of a stretch which I could see vearing off topic, so I'm gonna keep this fairly terse, but in short, I don't know how Voiceover on the back end calls to the voice engines. I know that you can take a Linux based package and port it over to the mac, provided that it has a cli. You'd not be able to get any of the gnu gui applications that you'd run under gnome to work. At least not with major major major work and probably some disassembling, which obviously would be totally! against Apples terms of service/policy. Not only this, but there are certain dependencies you'd also have to compile, probably even from source, and would have to probably even go so far as to uncompile, port/modify, then re! compile with the modifications. Being Voxin isn't open source, I don't see how this could be possible without doing things you shouldn't. Furthermore, as I said above: ok, so, yeah? you get it, and all the necessary dependencies and libraries installed. Voxin, even the newest version, is somewhat legacy, which means it has code that has been deprecated to the back svn trunk, so the odds that you're going to get things to play nicely across the board are slim. You may get Voxin working, but you'd probably break other things pretty badly in the process. Plus, you'd need either gnome-speech, or speech-dispatcher, as those are currently the only two drivers that voxin supports for output. Apple doesn't rely on either of those for voiceover, and I also can tell you that if you got either of those two, you'd have to either pipe them through Alsa, or through pulseaudio, which again, the kext drivers for OSX on the Mac probably do not use for audio in/out. I'm not saying either that it couldn't be done, Glenn, but my God! would it be a pain in my you know what! Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" <[email protected]> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:37 PM Subject: Eloquence, was Re: alex on the iphone >I believe that both Linux and OSX are based on Unix, so I would think that > Voxin could be made to run on a Mac. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]> > To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: alex on the iphone > > > I would agree, Eloquence would be a nice addition. Its on Linux, as Voxin > though :) > sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. > Devin prater > email and iMessage: [email protected] or [email protected] > Skype: > devinprater > msn: > [email protected] > > > On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Frankly, I think Eloquence is the best and would settle for it on my Mac >> any day! I'd be in down right heaven! if that ever became a reality, but >> I know it won't happen. I also know that I am in the minority of the >> people who actually not only like, but love! eloquence worth a passion, >> but that's just me. It's probably by far, the most natural sounding >> voice >> I've heard. >> >> Chris. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]> >> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:58 PM >> Subject: Re: alex on the iphone >> >> >>> Ah, yes. Still I'd love Samantha to be replaced by Alex. And honestly >>> microsoft got one thing right when they made their own voices for the >>> languages. Sure most of them are in 8k at the moment, but still they >>> made >>> their own voices. Sure they're unresponsive, unlike Neuances voices, but >>> they work. I still think Alex is the best voice in all systems. >>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. >>> Devin prater >>> email and iMessage: [email protected] or [email protected] >>> Skype: >>> devinprater >>> msn: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Probably so your device doesn't die in the middle of a download if you >>>> are on a dial up like wireless connection lol! That would not be very >>>> good. >>>> >>>> Tc all. >>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, that's what happens. And I didn't know you had to have it >>>>> plugged >>>>> up. Wonder why that is? >>>>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. >>>>> Devin prater >>>>> email and iMessage: [email protected] or [email protected] >>>>> Skype: >>>>> devinprater >>>>> msn: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> and the voices are not all downloaded in ios. I know this as I've >>>>>> experienced it. You need to have your phone plugged in and connected >>>>>> to wifi in order for the voice to download. and once you switch the >>>>>> hq >>>>>> voice I'm sure the old one is deleted to make room for the new one. >>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, ok, so they are? compact? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow, they sure sound good for that. I guess you learn something >>>>>>> every day, huh! LOL! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 1:08 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: alex on the iphone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. the new once voices are compact on the phone. I think only a >>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>> hq voices are available and only 1 at a time because of their size. >>>>>>>> and I do notice a slight decrease in performance when using them on >>>>>>>> my phone which is a 5. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Take care. >>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oh? But the Neuance voices are just as large. So I think they >>>>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>> make it happen. >>>>>>>>> sent from my Mac Mini with iCloud. >>>>>>>>> Devin prater >>>>>>>>> email and iMessage: [email protected] or [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Skype: >>>>>>>>> devinprater >>>>>>>>> msn: >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Josh Gregory <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> No because Alex is a very large voice that takes up a lot of RAM >>>>>>>>>> And processor, which the iPhone cannot currently handle. 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