Chris,
My thought was that if it is possible, then if enough of expressed an
interest to Apple, perhaps they could obtain the license from IBM to
include
it.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: Eloquence, was Re: alex on the iphone
This is kind of a gray area and a bit of a stretch which I could see
vearing
off topic, so I'm gonna keep this fairly terse, but in short, I don't
know
how Voiceover on the back end calls to the voice engines. I know that
you
can take a Linux based package and port it over to the mac, provided that
it
has a cli. You'd not be able to get any of the gnu gui applications that
you'd run under gnome to work. At least not with major major major work
and
probably some disassembling, which obviously would be totally! against
Apples terms of service/policy. Not only this, but there are certain
dependencies you'd also have to compile, probably even from source, and
would have to probably even go so far as to uncompile, port/modify, then
re!
compile with the modifications. Being Voxin isn't open source, I don't
see
how this could be possible without doing things you shouldn't.
Furthermore,
as I said above: ok, so, yeah? you get it, and all the necessary
dependencies and libraries installed. Voxin, even the newest version, is
somewhat legacy, which means it has code that has been deprecated to the
back svn trunk, so the odds that you're going to get things to play
nicely
across the board are slim. You may get Voxin working, but you'd probably
break other things pretty badly in the process. Plus, you'd need either
gnome-speech, or speech-dispatcher, as those are currently the only two
drivers that voxin supports for output. Apple doesn't rely on either of
those for voiceover, and I also can tell you that if you got either of
those
two, you'd have to either pipe them through Alsa, or through pulseaudio,
which again, the kext drivers for OSX on the Mac probably do not use for
audio in/out.
I'm not saying either that it couldn't be done, Glenn, but my God! would
it
be a pain in my you know what!
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glenn" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 7:37 PM
Subject: Eloquence, was Re: alex on the iphone
I believe that both Linux and OSX are based on Unix, so I would think
that
Voxin could be made to run on a Mac.
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 6:21 PM
Subject: Re: alex on the iphone
I would agree, Eloquence would be a nice addition. Its on Linux, as
Voxin
though :)
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On Jun 1, 2013, at 6:19 PM, Chris Gilland <[email protected]>
wrote:
Frankly, I think Eloquence is the best and would settle for it on my
Mac
any day! I'd be in down right heaven! if that ever became a reality,
but
I know it won't happen. I also know that I am in the minority of the
people who actually not only like, but love! eloquence worth a passion,
but that's just me. It's probably by far, the most natural sounding
voice
I've heard.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Devin Prater" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: alex on the iphone
Ah, yes. Still I'd love Samantha to be replaced by Alex. And honestly
microsoft got one thing right when they made their own voices for the
languages. Sure most of them are in 8k at the moment, but still they
made
their own voices. Sure they're unresponsive, unlike Neuances voices,
but
they work. I still think Alex is the best voice in all systems.
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On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]>
wrote:
Probably so your device doesn't die in the middle of a download if
you
are on a dial up like wireless connection lol! That would not be
very
good.
Tc all.
On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:46 PM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, that's what happens. And I didn't know you had to have it
plugged
up. Wonder why that is?
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On Jun 1, 2013, at 4:37 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]>
wrote:
and the voices are not all downloaded in ios. I know this as I've
experienced it. You need to have your phone plugged in and
connected
to wifi in order for the voice to download. and once you switch the
hq
voice I'm sure the old one is deleted to make room for the new one.
On Jun 1, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Chris Gilland
<[email protected]>
wrote:
Oh, ok, so they are? compact?
Wow, they sure sound good for that. I guess you learn something
every day, huh! LOL!
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami"
<[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2013 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: alex on the iphone
No. the new once voices are compact on the phone. I think only a
few
hq voices are available and only 1 at a time because of their
size.
and I do notice a slight decrease in performance when using them
on
my phone which is a 5.
Take care.
On Jun 1, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
Oh? But the Neuance voices are just as large. So I think they
could
make it happen.
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On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:24 AM, Josh Gregory <[email protected]>
wrote:
No because Alex is a very large voice that takes up a lot of
RAM
And processor, which the iPhone cannot currently handle. Sorry
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 1, 2013, at 9:16 AM, William Lomas
<[email protected]>
wrote:
hi all does anyone know if i can get alex voice on an iPhone
4s
if i jail break
surprised apple have not put this voice on their phones after
all, it is a voice of their own making
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