Hi Dane, John's thought is also a good one. I'll link to the Mail Archive post I wrote in reply to Matthew earlier in June: • Re: problem with my gf's MBA please help http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg18664.html
Here's the section about resetting the PRAM: First, try resetting the PRAM when you restart your Mac. Shut down your computer. Press the power on button, listen for the chime, and then immediately press and hold down the Command, Option, P, and R keys. You should keep holding down the Command, Option, P, and R keys until you hear the startup sound chime a second time. Then you can release these keys. (I press the Command and Option keys with the thumb of my left hand, the "R" key with the index finger of my left hand, the "P" key with the thumb of my right hand, and the power button with either the middle finger or forefinger of my right hand.) HTH. What worked for Matthew was booting into Safe mode. Cheers, Esther On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:38 PM, John Gunn <[email protected]> wrote: > Dane, > > Have you tried zapping the PRAM and reset SMC? > > John > > > On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:52 PM, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> It seems that none of those commands such as holding down r to get into >> recovery mode or option to allow booting from another drive want to work for >> some reason. >> >> Its most likely I'm doing something incredibly wrong <smile> but I am >> wondering whether its at all possible that Apple have removed these commands >> in recent updates? >> >> >> On 29/06/2013, at 1:25 PM, Esther <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Dane, >>> >>> Do you have another account you can start up from? I'm wondering if your >>> account preferences got corrupted. >>> >>> Failing that, can you try attaching a bootable cloned backup disk and >>> rebooting from that by holding down the Option key when you power up, then >>> pressing either the right or left arrow key, followed by a press of the >>> Return key? If the clone boots up correctly with VoiceOver active, you can >>> try either booting up and logging into another account on your Mac Mini's >>> hard drive, or maybe checking for corrupted preference files on the >>> original hard drive user account. >>> >>> Another option, if you've set up your Mini to permit remote login, and are >>> comfortable with using Terminal, is to remote login with SSH using Terminal >>> from another Mac. >>> >>> HTH. Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Zachary Kline <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Dane, >>>> Have you tried a system reboot with the power button followed by R? I’d >>>> hate to suggest it most of the time, but if VO absolutely refuses to start >>>> up again, it might be worth doing. it sounds as though some process >>>> crashed unexpectedly and the system is having trouble recovering to a sane >>>> state. >>>> Best, >>>> Zack. >>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yep tried that, won't work for some reason but I can certainly see where >>>>> you're coming from. >>>>> >>>>> On 29/06/2013, at 12:45 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Try getting in to training mode with vo cmd f8. then if you hear, the >>>>>> voice over quick start, hit esc. >>>>>> >>>>>> Take care. >>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Dane Trethowan <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen problems with Mac machines but nothing like this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I left my Mac Mini machine on overnight to finish some uploading. When >>>>>>> I returned to the machine this morning it was to discover that >>>>>>> Voiceover had stopped working, I tried turning Voiceover on and off >>>>>>> using Command-f5 which usually works but no result this time. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I used f11 and f12 to check the volume and heard the volume click >>>>>>> change every time I pressed 1 of these keys so sound device is >>>>>>> obviously okay, anyone any further suggestions? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This Mac Mini machine is a 2009 model running OSX Mountain Lion just in >>>>>>> case that all makes any difference of some sort. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >> > > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. 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