Brian - Can you tell me more about the development menu and Chrome? What would I need to do?
Andy On 8 Jul 2013, at 18:45, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey all, Not having built in flash in safari has been a love/hate thing for > me, as I love how sites that have built in video that plays over voiceover > doesn't play, but when I do want to watch a youtube clip or listen to an > audio clip, not having flash has been frustrating, one way to get the best of > both worlds is to make use of the develop menu and have chrome installed. > That way any time you want to listen to something, you just open the page in > chrome. Just wanted to offer this as an option for those of you didn't think > of it. > On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:34 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote: > >> Hello Andy, >> >> I can listen again to radio programmes by going to the appropriate BBC web >> page and clicking on the Listen now button. I can't pause the stream, but it >> does play straight through. Use the Item chooser (VO-i) to find the Listen >> now button quickly. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Anne >> >> >> On 8 Jul 2013, at 18:22, ANDY COLLINS <a...@recreation.plus.com> wrote: >> >>> Chris - are you using a Mac? You might like to go to a BBC station and find >>> and click the listen link. That's the ting, they appear to be links for the >>> live streams, but graphical buttons for the listen again Iplayer - >>> >>> Andy >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" <christopher...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 4:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack >>> andVoiceoverwithMountain Lion >>> >>> >>>> Andy, not sure then, I thought Bbc used Flash throughout. >>>> >>>> On 08/07/2013 15:25, ANDY COLLINS wrote: >>>>> Chris - Perhaps I'm not understanding the use of Flash, but why can I >>>>> listen to live streams from the BBC, just not old programmes with the >>>>> iPlayer - >>>>> >>>>> Andy >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris H" <christopher...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:54 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and >>>>> VoiceoverwithMountain Lion >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all it's not the Bbc's fault it's Adobe's for not making their >>>>>> Flash Player accessible on the mac. There's no fix any time soon either. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/07/2013 11:05, ANDY COLLINS wrote: >>>>>>> Hi all - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> New to the Mac, only had my MacBook Air for 3 weeks. I'm interested in >>>>>>> the possibility of using a different web browser, as I want to use >>>>>>> >>>>>>> www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> to listen to radio/TV programmes I miss, here in the UK. I'm able to >>>>>>> find the programme I want to listen too, but the play button is a >>>>>>> graphic, and VO can't see it. JAWS under Windows was ok with this, as >>>>>>> the BBC was made aware of the problem, and made it accessible, but they >>>>>>> don't appear to have taken Mac users in to consideration. I'll contact >>>>>>> them about this, but in the meantime, don't want to keep missing >>>>>>> programmes. Of course, I could be wrong, and maybe there is a way to >>>>>>> have VO see the play button when in a graphic, and I just don't know how >>>>>>> to make it happen, so if anybody knows if VO can be made to see these >>>>>>> graphic buttons, I'd appreciate the knowledge - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hopewell" >>>>>>> <hopew...@hopewell.org.uk> >>>>>>> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 9:56 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Accessible Internet Browsers For the Mack and Voiceover >>>>>>> withMountain Lion >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> I find that the lightning browser works fine with VoiceOver and often >>>>>>>> allows me to access buttons and the like which Safari cannot find for >>>>>>>> whatever reason. I recommend that you give it a go. It is in the App >>>>>>>> store. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Hopewell >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 02:02, gaggor...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hello Listers: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I heard that there are other options for browsers which are >>>>>>>>> compatible with >>>>>>>>> Voiceover. Is this true? If so, where do I obtain swuch a one? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any help would be appreciated. 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