OK, be careful here. You probably didn't mean what you actually typed, but
it's actually vo+F1 F1, not command+1.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carol Pearson" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: Mail busy message
Hi Chris,
Thanks for the explanation and the time you put into doing so. I do
understand these points And, if I know I am in having two apps open, I do
often use the command tab option rather than command one. Old Habits die
hard! and have all these little things in my mind now.
Carol P
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On 19 Jul 2013, at 02:30 AM, "Chris Gilland" <[email protected]>
wrote:
OK Carol, that's no problem. There are several ways that you can deal
with this.
First of all, I remember that you came from a Windows background
originally. Remember in Windows how you could do alt+tab to move between
applications? Well, it's the exact, same principle here. If you hit
command+Tab, that will cycle you between opened programs just like
alt+tab did in Windows. So, what you can do, is command tab and make sure
that the only thing opened is the Finder. When you hit command+tab,
remember, your command key is the key right to the left and right of your
space bar. You can use either of them in combination with the tab key.
Just hold down your command key, then start pressing the tab key, while
leaving your command key held down. When you hear the name of an
application you want to move focus to, release your command key. Once
you're in the application, just press command+Q to quit the application.
When I say application, I'm just meaning a program. Same thing
interchangeably. Application, program, same thing. The Mac is gonna
call it
more application, but just so not to confuse you further, they're both
the same lingo, no difference at all.
A good way for you, Carol, to remember command+Q to quit is just think
the mneumonic, q is for quit. So q is for quit, c is for copy, p is for
print, cut and paste are the same as they were in windows, with the
exception you use the command key instead of the ctrl key. So, command+x
is cut, command+v is paste, and command+z/zed call it as you will, is
undo. Command+C is copy, and command+A is select all.
I really hope that this helps you out, but if you need anything better
explained, please let me know, and I'll try to think of another way to
reword things more simply.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson"
<[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Mail busy message
Thanks and I'll keep this information safe.
Last night, the Mac told me that it could not close down because
something Was still working in finder. It suggested I should stop
applications etc, but I haven't a clue where to go!
I finally had to give in and reluctantly do a force quit!
If you can tell me how to deal more gently and effectively with this
problem in the future, that would be most useful, thanks!
Carol P
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On 18 Jul 2013, at 05:47 PM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hello Andy and Carol,
I really don't have this problem with Mail and I receive hundreds of
messages every day. However, I have some suggestions.
Whenever applications are behaving unreasonably, I find it useful to
repair permissions. You do this by opening the Utilities folder
(Cmd-Shift-u) and opening Disk Utility.
In Disk Utility, there is a table with which you interact to find your
internal hard drive. It's usually the second item in the table and is
often called Macintosh HD. Select it and stop interacting. Then
navigate twice right and check that First Aid is selected.
Navigate down from there to the button Repair Disk Permissions and
click it.
You can follow the progress of the permissions repair by navigating up
to Results and interacting with that table.
When the repair is complete, the bottom line will say as much and you
can quit the Utility.
Cheers,
Anne
On 18 Jul 2013, at 18:30, ANDY COLLINS <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Carol - I'm actually finding mail a bit of a pain, just when I
think I can navigate it ok, the appearance changes, or Having
interacted with a message, when I stop, I am thrown out in to
somewhere I didn't expect to be, and can't get back to my messages
without some fiddling about. I've searched around for help, and have
heard a couple of Pods referring to mail, but nothing really that has
given an in-depth explanation of how it works, and how to best set it
up. I'm a bit like this in Safari or Chrome, I think I've grasped
navigating etc, only to encounter something that throws me, and then
frustrates me too! -
Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Pearson"
<[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Mail busy message
Andy,
I have been having similar problems.
One thing that sometimes seems to help me is, instead of stopping
reacting in messages, to cycle between the reading of headers or
messages, and I think this is the third one that sometimes comes up,
but I can't remember offhand what it is.
We both are getting there slowly! I think there may be a keystroke
we're both missing, so I hope somebody will chime in here!
Carol P
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On 18 Jul 2013, at 04:58 PM, Andy Collins <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi all -
A lot of the time, when I stop interacting with messages table in
mail, VO says "busy." The only way I can get out of this is by
quitting the app, and reopening it. Do others have this issue? Can
anything be done about it? -
Andy
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