Thanks for this explanation, you clearly know your stuff, where as I am a bit in the dark in this area.
I was irritated by Apple saying all the blame was with Adobe, as they refused to implement amendments to Flash in respect of screen readers. Certainly flash works with JAWS and Window Eyes, and I can't say how much this is down to the coding for those screen readers or how much is down to the browser being used. For example, the website I posted in an earlier message, that has the sports stream I want to listen to, has a link that Safari can not click, nothing happens when it is clicked, but when viewing the same webpage with Chrome, that same link works, and I have even now found a way to get the stream to work too. So, where as some of the issue is with Adobe, as you say, is also with Apple. Andy On 28 Sep 2013, at 16:39, Travis Siegel <[email protected]> wrote: > Flash will play on osx just fine. The problem isn't with flash, it's with vo > seeing the flash controls. There's really no reason for this other than adobe > blaming apple, and apple blaming adobe. It's a vicious circle, and no doubt > both are partly to blame, but neither wants to accept the blame, because it > would mean extra work to fix it. > Now, with that said, to be blunt, flash bites. It's a cpu hog, it eats > memory, and it's slow, because of the layers of interpretation that must take > place before the final product can be put onscreen. It's simply not written > well, it's been proven to be buggy in the past, and I expect it will continue > to be exploited in future. This is all Adobe's fault. A decent assembly > programmer (or one that is really good at optimization) could likely fix the > memory and cpu issues, but adobe has done nothing about these for many many > years, and I doubt they'll start now. In short, adobe is junk, and the > sooner folks realize that, the sooner we can move on to something else that > does the job faster, with less resource utilization, and with more > streamlined processes. Whether that something will be html5 or something > else is unknown at this point, but in a side-by-side comparison for cpu > usage, memory usage, ease of use, and accessibility, html5 wins hands down on > every count when compared to flash, and that is not an opinion, it's an easily demonstratable fact. Even the players used for flash vs. html5 are smaller. I recently converted 73 videos from flash to html5, and not only did those videos become more accessible, but it also saved me a few megabytes of disk space in the process. Admittedly, these dys, only older folks like me seem to care about that sort of thing, but if you've got hundreds or thousands of videos, those savings add up to considerable space savings. Anyway, I've been considering writing up a short article explaining the process of converting from flash to html5, to take the mystery out of it. My guess is that a lot of folks still use flash, because they don't know how easy it is to implement the same process in html5, and in some cases, they probably don't even know html5 exists, so it's a matter of education more than anything else.<--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> > > To reply to this post, please address your message to > [email protected] > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at > either the list's own dedicated web archive: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> > or at the public Mail Archive: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. > Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> > > As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that > the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security > strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something > unpredictable happen. > > Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by > visiting the list website at: > <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/> > <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
