Hello

Regarding your first point, I too came to the Mac after a very long time using 
Windows. Now, however, I need to use both and, moreover, on the same machine 
preferably at the same time.

I believe that I was the first in the visually impaired community to introduce 
the concept of VMWAre Fusion, way back in April 2007 whilst beta testing for 
VMWAre with Fusion 1.0.  I produced a demo for ACB Radio main stream, which was 
well received in many quarters, I’m flattered to say.

I worked closely in those days with the VMWAre engineering staff to ensure 
accessibility.  This was because at that time the only other solution was 
Parallels Desktop 1.0 which was, and remains to this day, totally inaccessible. 
 When I contacted VMWAre in the very early part of 2007, they were extremely 
receptive to my comment and, as I said, invited me to participate in what was 
then private beta testing.  It went public not too long after my original demo 
which was compiled with their knowledge and permission.

In recent times, however, I haven’t really given much thought to using it since 
about Fusion 4, which was very different.  I find that the host system keeps 
grabbing control of the keyboard when, for instance, I hit Command+M which 
should produce the equivalent to Windows+M in the guest.  I don’t want to go 
down the road of configuration of the guest on this forum because it would put 
me off topic, and my fellow moderator would probably banish me from the list, 
despite the fact that I own it! ;-)

Seriously, however, if there is anybody who wants to take up this discussion 
and if they are a member of either Techno-Chat, or our sister group, 
Windows-Access, I’d love to hear from you as to how you avoid the conflicts to 
which I seem to be prone.

For reference once again, I shall post here the links that people may use to 
join these groups if they wish:

Techno-Chat, <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat/>
Windows-Accesss, <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/windows-access/>

Back to the original topic, what I was going to say was that I believe that it 
is essential if you want to cut the learning curve down a bit, to throw away 
what seems sensible on Windows or other platforms, and take VoiceOver for the 
beast that it is.  Learning native functionality before venturing out to 
changing things seems, to me at least, to be a more preferable way to work.  
I’ve found when coaching new users that, if I can get the user to totally 
forget about Jaws, NVDA, Window-Eyes, Access2Go, Window-Bridge or any other 
such solution, the user seems to learn more quickly.  VoiceOver is, as most 
would agree, a very different concept to the majority or maybe even all of 
those screen-readers with the possible exception of NVDA whose basic principles 
are the same.

Anyway, I’ll end with another question.  If you make this change, and the caps 
lock key is used as a VoiceOver key, what happens with your other solutions 
which also require the caps lock key? I too am using a MacBook, a 2012 MacBook 
Air in my case.  OK, so that I can comment from the perspective of one who has 
at least tried the change, I shall go and make a total system backup, and then 
I shall make the change; see if I prefer it.  If so, I shall then bow to the 
inevitable.

Finally, to be very clear, I don’t want you to think I’m in any way ridiculing, 
patronising, disputing or in any way trying to be obnoxious.  I’m just 
interested in the concept of why people find these changes advantageous.  
Perhaps, after trying it, I may come out on totally the other side of the 
fence.   But I shall, rest assured, try it.  I wouldn’t like to in any way be 
presumptuous.

Kindest regards

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On 25 May 2014, at 18:50, Geoff Stephens <[email protected]> wrote:

For me at least, recently coming to the Mac after many years of Windows use, 
the idea that two keys are necessary to control VO seems nonsensical.  
Therefore, I immediately made the change.  It also seems rather intuitive that 
the caps lock key would be the most logical choice since it allows one to leave 
the left hand on the home row.  I do not have any problem with dexterity.  More 
than a few of the keystrokes required to use VO if one leaves it at the default 
Control Option setting are needlessly difficult to accomplish.  I only use VO 
on a laptop keyboard.  Another reason the Caps Lock key is such a logical 
choice is that it is commonly used in Windows screen readers as the dedicated 
key for issuing screen reader commands in a laptop layout.

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