I am not going to upgrade to I OS 8 until there is some reliance upon usability. I don't believe there's any folly, in wanting to actually use the iPhone you have become reliant upon. The folly, is that somehow upgrading to an in adequate upgrade, is better so all others will be better off because Apple customer service will hear from more people about what doesn't work. For those that are brave enough, to express to Apple what doesn't work on their phones anymore….Go for it. Much thanks.
Sent from my iPhone On Sep 27, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke <[email protected]> wrote: Well my niece who is sighted said the upgrade really messed up her iPad. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" <[email protected]> To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 3:54 PM Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? > Speaking of security, I seem to recall, in IOS 7, in the major release from > 6x to 7, that there was a security breakage. > Here is an example where it is more secure to stay with the older version. > These developers are in too much of a rush to upgrade their OS. > I think Apple wanted to get this out along side their new phone and rushed > things too much. > Plus, when things go bad, it is harder on those of use using the adaptive > software we need to even use the device. > Glenn > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Smith" <[email protected]> > To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 8:48 AM > Subject: Re: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? > > > I could not agree more. People that just sit back are not helping us at > all. Perhaps if we all updated and showed our interest in getting things > fixed it would all happen a lot quicker and the likes of Appple may > concentrate a little more on the voice over side of some great software. > Everyone to their own I guess. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Shaun Oliver > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 6:06 > To: 'OS X & iOS Accessibility' > Subject: [Bulk] RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? > > I may be seen as confrontational with this response, but, I'mnot concerned > with that. > > What concerns me, however, is the arrogants displayed by people who believe > they know better than they who've coded the operating system we're > discussing. > > Regardless of accessibility bugs, which aren't insurmountable, I might add, > Each new IOS update includes security fixes to plug holes that were found in > the last revision and were picked up too late to be included in the cycle. > Irrespective of these bugs, a good number of which, have been addressed, to > a certain extent, to suggest that people not upgrade so as to maintain > useability, in my opinion is arrogant and gauche and utter folly. To suggest > you have no issues with security in a previous revision of IOS is again > folly. > > It only takes one misplaced tap to introduce malware to the system or open > up a back door to be exploited by someone with little else to do than annoy > the rest of us. > > If you want total security, you won't buy a smart phone. If you want > moderate security, you won't connect it to the internet. If you want > relative security, you'll stay on top of updates. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Timothy J. Meloy > Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 16:16 > To: OS X & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? > > I have not experienced some of the voice over bugs that have been widely > talked about. The pros outweigh the cons for upgrading. > TJ > > >> On Sep 27, 2014, at 1:30 AM, Diane Bomar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Unless there is something in IOS 8, that you absolutely must have, I would > encourage you to wait. After using IOS 8 for a week, on my new iPhone, I > definitely will not be updating this iPad mini, till some bugs are fixed. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Sep 26, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Glenn <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I don't think we need to worry about security in version 7. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Shaun Oliver" <[email protected]> >> To: "'OS X & iOS Accessibility'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 11:57 PM >> Subject: RE: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? >> >> >> It's always a good idea to upgrade, even if the bugs haven't all been >> ironed out, you'll find that there's always security fixes which are >> reason enough to upgrade. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sarah k >> Alawami >> Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2014 14:25 >> To: mac access list iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: iOS 8.0.2, to Upgrade or Not? >> >> Actually I heard some of the accessibility bugs have been fixed and >> some work arounds as well. I myself will wait especially now that >> apple stopped code signing ios7 so down grading really is not a >> possibility anymore if you find somethign brakes. >> >> At the same time how ever the more of us that report bugs the more >> apple might consider a fix for us. >>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 8:00 PM, Anna <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> From the update info list given during update there were no >>> accessibilty >> bug fixes listed, mainly cellular connectivity fixes. >>> >>> I would wait. >>> >>> Anna >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Sep 26, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Matthew Chao <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, Folks. I have an iPhone 5 running the latest version of iOS7. >>>> I've >> heard that 8.0.0 had problems regarding the Bluetooth keyboards >> working with VoiceOver. Has this been fixed in iOS8.0.2? Also, what >> about the sticking phone touch tone key? 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