I’ll give it another go later on, don’t want to interrupt the machine when its 
restoring from a Time Machine backup, thank Goodness for the Hitachi External 
USB 3.0 drive <smile>.

On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:08 am, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I forgot to say  you need to hold down the fn key and then hit vo f2 twice. 
> It's a system dialogue.
> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
>> I’ll try it again, all I see with Voiceover is “Signing Into The iTunes 
>> store’ when I try the installation on my iMac so will try your suggestion 
>> and see what happens.
>> 
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>> On 17 Oct 2014, at 10:45 am, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Odd. I can get it to work all the time on my mac book air. I did this 
>>> recently. Just route your cursers and click. It should work. This is a 
>>> known bug that has been around for a while now. It was when I did the 
>>> tutorial last year.
>>> 
>>> Take care.
>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:42 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That’s precisely the point, with the Mac Mini I can see the edit fields 
>>>> with Voiceover easily enough but nothing’s visible at all when I try the 
>>>> reinstall of OS X from recovery mode.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 17 Oct 2014, at 10:18 am, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Actually it's a bug in voice over. route your curser to the edit fiel 
>>>>> dand vo shift space.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take care. 
>>>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm sure you've seen my eMail regarding my new Mac Mini machine <smile>, 
>>>>>> actually the machine isn't knew, I got it from a friend before the 
>>>>>> machine was religated to paperweight status.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Unfortunately the previous owner of the machine didn't wipe it thus I 
>>>>>> could do nothing myself with the machine until I got a password which I 
>>>>>> didn't get so the only thing it seemed I could do was to perform a full 
>>>>>> OS X Mavericks install from the Recovery mode.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now here's where things got interesting, I was doubtful that I'd be able 
>>>>>> to perform this type of install, I tried it once and couldn't sign into 
>>>>>> the iTunes store however this time on the Mac Mini 2012 model I had no 
>>>>>> problems whatever and the installation went without a hitch.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Even more surprising was the fact that the Machine remembered what the 
>>>>>> network was it had been connected to before I performed the install 
>>>>>> which made things incredibly easy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So feeling byant I tried to perform a clean install of OS X Mavericks 
>>>>>> from my iMac and it was doomed to failure from the stat, couldn't sign 
>>>>>> into the iTunes store etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So why the difference, is it something to do with firmware in my 2011 
>>>>>> iMac and the 2012 Mac Mini machine?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dane Trethowan's iPhone at +61400494862 has had the privlidge of 
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