I'll do that.
Sorry for asking for help, and mayb e for sounding a bit frustrated. Hope
you got your issue taken care of by the way.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not
fullyconvincedthatSnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
Okay, well to save everyone time, perhaps you should talk to the
developers if you're not finding multiple entry's.
On 9/03/2015 2:14 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, but when you read my mail more in full, you'll see that I had quite a
significantly long list. Most internet radio based softwares I've tried
be it on the mac, I O S, Android, Windows, whatever, have had at least!
some of them, if not all of them. I almost wonder if maybe somehow I was
searching favorites, and not the whole database, although that theory
doesn't make sense either, as if that was the case, then why was I seeing
other stations that I never ever have heard of, let alone! made favorites
of.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully
convincedthatSnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
I should add that I have used Snowflake to search for, play and add
stations to my favourites, one of my favourite stations 1010 WINS - the
only station of its type in the world - I was able to find this with
Snowflake, play it and its now in my favourites list.
One station in Sydney Australia - Radio 2GB - I couldn't find, I tried
several different search terms but nothing came up, perhaps the station
wasn't in the directory? I honestly don't know and I didn't really
explore the directory however I had the URL for 2GB on hand so I just
used the "Add URL" function of Snowflake, Radio 2GB then started playing
and I added 2GB to my Favourites List.
On 9/03/2015 1:46 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
No worries.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced
thatSnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
Sorry, with the dramatic events of yesterday I didn't have a chance to
fully read your eMail, I'll take another look later on this morning.
On 9/03/2015 1:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
OK, and were you able to find any of the stations that I mentioned?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that
SnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
The Genres view I was in and that’s the default view when the App
starts for the first time, command with a number from 1 to for takes
you to a different view though this might not be available in the
Free version, I must keep reminding myself that I bought the Pro and
you have the Free and their might be considerable differences
between both perhaps?
On 8 Mar 2015, at 5:32 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
I didn't really make mention of any specific view though, this is
just the screen that comes up by default. Are there any other
views that you can change to that I might not be aware of?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake
forMacisworthwhile.
You told us!
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:38 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
When you say the view I mention, how do you know which view I was
in? Can you see if any of those stations I mentioned in my first
post come up for you?
If you can get them, then please outline step by step how to make
sure I'm on the same view that you are looking at, and then how
to find the station specifically.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake
for Macisworthwhile.
I won’t be able to do any demonstrations for a little while, had
a major accident in my kitchen last night, knocked over a full
tin of coffee which burst open onto the floor and I’m having to
both supervise and put into practise the cleaning operation so
its back to the computer for short breaks only at the moment
until the cleaning job is completed but nevertheless I’ve just
had another quick play with Snowflake on my system.
In the view you mentioned, I found that Voiceover started saying
“Busy”, that in itself isn’t an uncommon thing to hear so I
focused to another application, turned Voiceover off, waited for
5 seconds and then reactivated it again.
I then went back into Snowflake and everything worked as it
should, was able to read the tables etc.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:18 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
Dane,
Would it be at all possible for you to make an audio demo of
how the app works for you? Perhaps this might clear up any
confusions myself or others are having about how to use it.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<[email protected]>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that
Snowflake for Mac isworthwhile.
Interesting, I’ve been using Snowflake for a few days now and
I don’t have the problems you’ve mentioned with Voiceover and
I certainly can bring up the list.
I’m not doubting you either because someone else brought up
the fact that they were also having issues so I’ve no idea
what’s going on.
For me? Well its been calm sailing I have to admit from the
moment I downloaded Snowflake onto the Mac up until now.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 12:46 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<[email protected]> wrote:
I hate to be the breaker of bad news, but after trying
Snowflake for Mac which was mentioned about a week ago by
Dane here on list, I must say that thus far, I am definitely
not at all impressed. Please see my reasons below. If anyone
would like an audio demo of me illustrating these facts
either 1 for proof, or 2, just so you can hear it in action,
just let me know. I have no issue putting something
together. I’ll be in my studio all day, so it would be easy
enough to do.
Anyway…
1. When I click the genres button with any of the known
methods: vo+space, vo+shift+space after rooting the mouse,
hitting return, hitting space bar, routing the mouse then
literally clicking the trackpad, etc, Voiceover goes
completely busy and no matter what the heck I do, it won’t
become ready again unless I restart Voiceover with command+F5
to turn it off, then again command+F5 to turn it back on.
Even command+tabbing to another application doesn’t work.
2. Finally when I *do!* manage to get Voiceover to start
cooperating, I notice that the search button, and the genre
button are both gone. Now, I have a button that says
alternative. As you may or may not have suspected, clicking
it with any of the above mentioned methods does literally
absolutely nothing at all.
3. After clicking the genre button, and unhanging Voiceover,
I find lots of stations in the table which are related to
alternative, but I see absolutely no way to change the genre,
say, from alternative to Christian, or country, or oldies, or
adult contemporary, etc.
4. When I search for a station by hitting the search button
if needed, then going to the edit box, typing my key word
search, then hitting return, nothing at all shows up in the
table. I’ve tried looking for wrcm 91.9 in Charlotte NC, I’ve
tried looking for WLYT 102.9 in Charlotte NC, WLNK 107.9 in
Charlotte NC, WSOC 103.7 in Charlotte NC, WKKT 96.9 the Kat
in Charlotte NC, WBT 1110 in Charlotte NC, KTAR in Phoenix
AZ, KOA 810 in Denver CO, WSM in Nashville TN, and have found
none of these, which I find incredibly surprising for an app
which apparently clames to have over twenty thousand stations
in its database. I’ll admit that I haven’t paid for the pro
version, which may wind up including more stations in its
database library, however I see no reference on their web
site to this one way or another. It looks like all I gain
from the pro version is the ability to output my audio to
multiple sound devices, and the ability to access the
equalizer, which by the way, I don’t know either way if that
is accessible or not.
So yeah… it sounds to me like there are hardly any stations
in this app which I can find. Plus, I still don’t see a way
to browse by location.
I therefore am not at this time going to be purchasing a
license, that’s for sure.
Now, I am extremely! willing to stand corrected on any of my
notes above. If there is something maybe I’m missing, then by
all means! please please let me know. I’m not seeing
anything, but then again, I’m human. I’ve been known a time
or two to miss certain things, therefore I don’t clame to be
correct in everything. There is that slight chance I’m
missing something, though I’m sceptical of this possibility,
admittedly.
Before anyone asks, yes, I’m on the most up to date version,
and yes, I am indeed using Yosemite.
Chris.
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