OK, and were you able to find any of the stations that I mentioned?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2015 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that
SnowflakeforMacisworthwhile.
The Genres view I was in and that’s the default view when the App starts
for the first time, command with a number from 1 to for takes you to a
different view though this might not be available in the Free version, I
must keep reminding myself that I bought the Pro and you have the Free and
their might be considerable differences between both perhaps?
On 8 Mar 2015, at 5:32 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't really make mention of any specific view though, this is just
the screen that comes up by default. Are there any other views that you
can change to that I might not be aware of?
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake
forMacisworthwhile.
You told us!
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:38 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
When you say the view I mention, how do you know which view I was in?
Can you see if any of those stations I mentioned in my first post come
up for you?
If you can get them, then please outline step by step how to make sure
I'm on the same view that you are looking at, and then how to find the
station specifically.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake for
Macisworthwhile.
I won’t be able to do any demonstrations for a little while, had a
major accident in my kitchen last night, knocked over a full tin of
coffee which burst open onto the floor and I’m having to both
supervise and put into practise the cleaning operation so its back to
the computer for short breaks only at the moment until the cleaning
job is completed but nevertheless I’ve just had another quick play
with Snowflake on my system.
In the view you mentioned, I found that Voiceover started saying
“Busy”, that in itself isn’t an uncommon thing to hear so I focused
to another application, turned Voiceover off, waited for 5 seconds and
then reactivated it again.
I then went back into Snowflake and everything worked as it should,
was able to read the tables etc.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 4:18 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dane,
Would it be at all possible for you to make an audio demo of how the
app works for you? Perhaps this might clear up any confusions myself
or others are having about how to use it.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Mac-access]: I'm not fully convinced that Snowflake for
Mac isworthwhile.
Interesting, I’ve been using Snowflake for a few days now and I don’t
have the problems you’ve mentioned with Voiceover and I certainly
can bring up the list.
I’m not doubting you either because someone else brought up the fact
that they were also having issues so I’ve no idea what’s going on.
For me? Well its been calm sailing I have to admit from the moment I
downloaded Snowflake onto the Mac up until now.
On 8 Mar 2015, at 12:46 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
I hate to be the breaker of bad news, but after trying Snowflake
for Mac which was mentioned about a week ago by Dane here on list,
I must say that thus far, I am definitely not at all impressed.
Please see my reasons below. If anyone would like an audio demo of
me illustrating these facts either 1 for proof, or 2, just so you
can hear it in action, just let me know. I have no issue putting
something together. I’ll be in my studio all day, so it would be
easy enough to do.
Anyway…
1. When I click the genres button with any of the known methods:
vo+space, vo+shift+space after rooting the mouse, hitting return,
hitting space bar, routing the mouse then literally clicking the
trackpad, etc, Voiceover goes completely busy and no matter what
the heck I do, it won’t become ready again unless I restart
Voiceover with command+F5 to turn it off, then again command+F5 to
turn it back on. Even command+tabbing to another application doesn’t
work.
2. Finally when I *do!* manage to get Voiceover to start
cooperating, I notice that the search button, and the genre button
are both gone. Now, I have a button that says alternative. As you
may or may not have suspected, clicking it with any of the above
mentioned methods does literally absolutely nothing at all.
3. After clicking the genre button, and unhanging Voiceover, I
find lots of stations in the table which are related to
alternative, but I see absolutely no way to change the genre, say,
from alternative to Christian, or country, or oldies, or adult
contemporary, etc.
4. When I search for a station by hitting the search button if
needed, then going to the edit box, typing my key word search, then
hitting return, nothing at all shows up in the table. I’ve tried
looking for wrcm 91.9 in Charlotte NC, I’ve tried looking for WLYT
102.9 in Charlotte NC, WLNK 107.9 in Charlotte NC, WSOC 103.7 in
Charlotte NC, WKKT 96.9 the Kat in Charlotte NC, WBT 1110 in
Charlotte NC, KTAR in Phoenix AZ, KOA 810 in Denver CO, WSM in
Nashville TN, and have found none of these, which I find incredibly
surprising for an app which apparently clames to have over twenty
thousand stations in its database. I’ll admit that I haven’t paid
for the pro version, which may wind up including more stations in
its database library, however I see no reference on their web site
to this one way or another. It looks like all I gain from the pro
version is the ability to output my audio to multiple sound
devices, and the ability to access the equalizer, which by the way,
I don’t know either way if that is accessible or not.
So yeah… it sounds to me like there are hardly any stations in this
app which I can find. Plus, I still don’t see a way to browse by
location.
I therefore am not at this time going to be purchasing a license,
that’s for sure.
Now, I am extremely! willing to stand corrected on any of my notes
above. If there is something maybe I’m missing, then by all means!
please please let me know. I’m not seeing anything, but then
again, I’m human. I’ve been known a time or two to miss certain
things, therefore I don’t clame to be correct in everything. There
is that slight chance I’m missing something, though I’m sceptical
of this possibility, admittedly.
Before anyone asks, yes, I’m on the most up to date version, and
yes, I am indeed using Yosemite.
Chris.
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