> From: James Sedgwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> She still has a rotary phone line, she has no need for a touch-tone system.
>> 'Sides as she says "why pay the buggers at Bell C$3.50 a month extra for
>> a touch-tone system, I don't need it?"
> 
> Smart lady

[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bell @[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bell @[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
thieves @[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] @#$!$# highway
robbery -- it costs them *less* to implement touch-tone yet they charge
people for it (plus, they don't allow you to decline touch-tone yet you have
to pay for it... @[EMAIL PROTECTED])* monopolies).

>> Admittedly, she has quite a collection of rotary phones; one upstairs in
>> the master bedroom, one  yellow
>> wall phone downstairs in the kitchen. Up until last year the upstairs
>> connection  was a two inch square
>> box with pins i n the corners, it's now one of the smaller pin  jobbies,
>> the kitchen phone is hard-wired.
>> And she has used my mobile phone, the buttons are not what she is used
>> to; that said I pick up old rotary
>> dial phones at garage sales, to keep her in phones. Hers keep dying...
>> 
>> So how do I connect to the internet, sympatico in this case?
> 
> Tell your computer to do pulse, rather than tone, dialing. You didn't say
> which OS but it is fairly easy in either X, or pre-X

At the very end of the message Bruce mentioned 9.2.2 ;P Open up "Modem" and
select "Pulse" (if you have a "fast" phone number 222-1111 or something like
that you could leave it on Pulse all the time). If you use a manual dial
string with ATD or ATDT 555-555-1212 in it append P to make it ATDP.

PS Bruce, you mentioned that you have a phone-line dedicated to dialup.
Provided you live in the GTA (Hamilton comes to mind) you may be able to get
the same service you have now for a similar price (also requires that your
line can be serviced by Bell Sympatico's HSE).

There's an outfit called the Toronto FreeNet that's a not-for-profit that
provides ADSL. I've been using them for about a month now and have been
quite impressed by the quality of the connection -- it's *fast* (my partner
is moving to the UK soon and is dreading having to go back to dialup). And,
supposedly they have dial-up access (I think 10 hours/month) if you require
it (I get 20 hours/4 months from the U of T "for free" ($6000 tuition bill
later) so I don't need extra modem access).

Cost = $37.50 + tax/month and you have to buy the modem up front ($200 after
tax) and pay for first and last month's service (no contract). They'll buy
the modem back from you within the first year if you quit their service
reducing the price by $10 (admin fee) + $7.50/month (so I guess the same as
renting from Symcrapico except that you own your own modem after two years
and are then "home free").

Compared to Symcrapico HSE or Rogers not-so-reliable Cable it's a good deal
(plus, you're not sending profit into a faceless corporation's coffers...
(though, I guess Bell does get some $$$ (ain't it great being a
pseudo-monopoly... you get money from everyone regardless of what you do)
since TorFreeNet does rent their lines)).

Eric.


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