On 7/26/03 3:30 PM, Harold Bakker posted:

>At 15:38 -0400 25-07-2003, Dan Knight wrote:
>> <http://lowendmac.com/index2003.html>
>
>> We use a external style sheet on Low End Mac, so once we find a fix that
>> works, it will be easy to implement it globally. I'm looking for help in
>> creating a style sheet that eliminates the unwanted line of space after
>> certain elements.
>
>The following stylesheet rule eliminates the problem in almost all modern
>browsers.
>H5 { margin: 0px; }
>It doesn't eliminate the problem for NS4 or iCab but then those browsers
>don't do CSS too well.

Excellent -- that definitely solves the problem in Safari, which is the 
browser I was most concerned about. iCab still has problems. Hoping 3.0 
will solve them.

Mozilla, OmniWeb, and IE 5.2 remain excellent. Netscape 4 leaves the 
extra row of space just like Safari used to -- but at least nothing 
breaks.

>To also fix things in NS4 abandon the <h5> followed by <center> and change
>it to this:
><div class="navlinks" align="center"> [Navigation here] </div>

Right now I'm tweaking the design in Claris Home Page. Once I have the 
layout and color scheme I like, I'll open the file in BBEdit and use HTML 
Tidy to clean things up. My goal is to move away from using Home Page 
outside of making rough drafts of projects and build better pages.

>I mean no disrespect with the following, you're doing a great job with LEM,
>but you've posted before about some design problems and I think it's time
>for you to decide what version of HTML you want to offer your visitors.

Hoping to become 4.0-transitional compliant when the process is done. 
This is just the first step in overhauling the page structure of 
everything on the site.

>It's hard to say what's the right thing for a browser to do given the state
>of the HTML. What with all the fonttags, empty tags and center's sprinkled
>generously around, some are uppercase, some are lowercase. It would help if
>you cleaned up the code. The code also isn't formatted for easy reading
>which makes debugging it very hard.

We use Mizer to "compress" the HTML for faster loading because some 
people are still on dial-up and some people are still using old, slow, 
low-end Macs to visit our site. On average, page size is reduced 25% with 
this good old utility.

Thanks for the tips. Latest rough draft (with Home Page HTML at this 
point) is a fair bit improved.

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