On Tuesday 13 November 2007 08:06:35 Ariel Lepor wrote:
> That all looks good. Of course it would be difficult, but that is what
> needs to be done for this to be a good Mac app that people go to instead
> of Microsoft Office : mac or iWork. We can't just sit back and let this
> program stay as an old Windows style app. Mac programs are unique in
> that their counterparts which run on other operating systems usually
> share a single, different look, while Mac programs match the Aqua style.
> Something which optionally looks kind of like iWork which could run on
> Windows or Linux would improve that workspace as well, but even if just
> for the Mac port, this is important.
> Ariel

Ariel,
would you like to either start a thread in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
list or if you don't want to get on another list open a new page and 
discussion on the Art Project wiki 

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice.org_Art_Project

There are a couple of new young guys with lots of enthusiasm that may be able 
to assist

Cheers
 GL

>
> eric b wrote:
> > Hi Ariel,
> >
> > I proposed something during Barcelona OOoCon2007, helped with Robert
> > Dargaud, who had the initial idea. The only problem we had, was
> > because the proposed solution is Mac OS X only, and not multi platform
> > like what Novell presented in parallel.
> >
> > Curiously, nobody, excepted Novell people, considered that seriously,
> > and some journalists concentrated on Aqua output date instead.
> >
> >
> > Since, without support and feedback, I gave up working on that solution.
> >
> > But I now Novell works extremely seriously on a new scheme ( using
> > some of our ideas if I understood correctly) for automatic layout.
> > Means: Mac OS X would take over the graphical layout, instead of
> > OpenOffice.org ( old code, outdated, framework , whatever ... ). Let's
> > wait and see.
> >
> >
> > The original idea ( presented two years ago by Robert during 1st Mac
> > porters meeting Hamburg, nov 2005) was to use .src files who define
> > the look of every (not exactly all, because some are Java defined)
> > dialog boxes
> >
> > Currently, the .src files are, using some black magic, turned into
> > .res files, containing everything including the graphical layout, with
> > button size, positions. Not good at all, because not system managed,
> > and resolution dependant.
> >
> >
> > A clean (begining of ) solution could consist in
> >
> > 1) turn every .src file into .xml  (a parser already does exist )
> >
> > 2) adapt the .xml to renaissance .xml format : in runtime, Renaissance
> > does automagically the Aqua layout ( size, position, including
> > everything from the system ).
> >
> > Means we simulate .nibs, everything is correctly positionned, and we
> > have *real* Cocoa windows for  ~everything. Including all icons aqua
> > like, by default.
> >
> >
> > 3) NOT solved yet : bind all controls, and callbacks , strings.
> >
> > This is a lot of work, probably much bugs to come, but would be a
> > great step forward for the Asua port.
> >
> > Maybe somebody can complete, correct me, confirm... etc
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric Bachard
>
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