That is great news Juergen! I am now using a Mac too, and it is indeed
great to be able to use Python 2.5 features. Let me know when there is
something I can do to move cws python25 ahead!

Thanks,

Daniel


On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Juergen Schmidt
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> i have fixed the Python problem on Mac OS X. I have to do some checks on the
> other platforms but you can expect it at least in OO.org 3.1 maybe already
> in 3.0.1.
> Next step should be the upgrade to Python 2.5 (cws python25). On Mac i
> already use it because there is the system Python used. Will take a look on
> it when somebody has migrated the cws to svn ;-)
>
> Juergen
>
> Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> don't get me wrong. You do some business with Python and OO.org. You
>> develop extensions in Python and if they don't work you get in trouble or
>> lost business ("... Since this means lost sales for us, we would very much
>> like to do something about it. ..")
>>
>> Python is still a little bit unmaintained. I simply suggest that you take
>> the responsibility for Python. The integration of Python 2.5 is ongoing for
>> a long time now. If the responsible people don't communicate  try it again
>> or start working on it on your own. Try to ask first and if no response just
>> do it on your own.
>>
>> Important is that you take it seriously. Ideally do it for all the major
>> platforms. There is no real QA for Python etc. So you can start with QA  or
>> can directly start with the maintenance.
>>
>> I would really like to see somebody who feel responsible for Python. Will
>> do or at least organize QA and will take care that Python works in  new
>> releases.
>>
>> Just do it.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>> Darabos Dániel wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Juergen!
>>>
>>> Yes, I would like to get involved in maintaining PyUNO, and you
>>> remember correctly that we have intended to do so since last year. I
>>> know we did not do much "maintaining" since, but it is not for lack of
>>> goodwill. Let me know how I can help more.
>>>
>>> I have tried to get involved in the move to 2.5, but apart from the
>>> exchange of a few emails I did not manage to. I could not really find
>>> out even the status of this project.
>>>
>>> We have now during the Beijing OOoCon released an open-source tool
>>> that greatly aids the development of Python extensions, and makes the
>>> development process very much fun:
>>>
>>> https://launchpad.net/eoec
>>>
>>> With EuroOffice Extension Creator you can develop an extension while
>>> OpenOffice.org is running. For example you have created a dialog box,
>>> where you press a button, and something should happen, but it does not
>>> correctly work. You can just edit the event for the button, save the
>>> modified source (in your favorite editor) and click the button again
>>> in OpenOffice.org (you do not even need to close the dialog box). With
>>> this I hope we can attract more Python developers to OpenOffice.org.
>>>
>>> And I will gladly fix the current dlopen issue too myself, if you
>>> think I should. (Though I do not know much about how dlopen works on a
>>> Mac.)
>>>
>>> Also if we phrased the situation on the download page of the patcher
>>> in a way that you dislike, let me know and we'll rewrite it. Though I
>>> hope this is not the case.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Juergen Schmidt
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> the patch probably works around the problem. But if you plan to make
>>>> business with Python and OpenOffie.org you should consider to invest a
>>>> little bit more in the maintenance of Python in general. When i remember
>>>> the
>>>> last OOCon in Barcelona correct, you had plans to do so. But i don't see
>>>> that somebody feel really responsible. You shouldn't wait that other
>>>> people
>>>> fix your problems.
>>>>
>>>> I am currently rethinking my personal investment in this issue ...
>>>>
>>>> Juergen
>>>>
>>>> Darabos Dániel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the slides Stephan! They made me sorry for missing your
>>>>> session!
>>>>>
>>>>> I was able to write a light patch for until the issue is fixed in
>>>>> OpenOffice.org proper:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.multiracio.com/eurooffice/news/mac-patcher-released
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have any comments on it, they would be much appreciated. We are
>>>>> quite new to Mac development.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Stephan Bergmann
>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/19/08 12:53, Darabos Dániel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is of course not a general fix :). Any idea why dlopen does not
>>>>>>> find libpyuno.dylib in the same folder that this code (pyuno.so) is
>>>>>>> executed from?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coincidentally, I explained just that in my OOoCon08 presentation, see
>>>>>> slide
>>>>>> 19 of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/thursday_1402.odp>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://marketing.openoffice.org/ooocon2008/programme/thursday_1402.pdf>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Stephan
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