Amit, thanks for re-writing the prefPane in 64-bit -- one minor
annoyance gone!  ;-)


On Sep 28, 4:49 pm, Amit Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
> Since I've been dormant for a while from this group's standpoint,
> several questions and speculations have piled up regarding MacFUSE's
> Snow Leopard status. I'm answering some questions in this post. Please
> read the whole thing carefully before jumping to further conclusions.
>
> * What have I been up to?
>
> I've been busy with things other than MacFUSE.
>
> * What has the MacFUSE team been up to?
>
> The myth of the MacFUSE team has become rather annoying. There is no
> MacFUSE "team" and there never has been one. The MacFUSE distribution
> has the following components:
>
> 1. The command-line software updater/installer (autoinstaller)
> 2. The preference pane (MacFUSE.prefPane)
> 3. The Objective-C framework (MacFUSE.framework)
> 4. Everything else (kernel extension, user libraries, helper tools)
>
> Greg Miller and Dave MacLachlan wrote components 1 and 2,
> respectively, as *one time* favors to the project.
>
> Ted Bonkenburg wrote component 3.
>
> I take care of the rest. Since component 4 constitutes the core of the
> project and is the part that needs work (or the most work) when Mac OS
> X changes, if I have other higher priority things to do, things can
> stall with MacFUSE. Please realize that I have a full-time job (and
> MacFUSE is not it), a family, and several other pursuits besides
> MacFUSE. Also, I'm not even working on Mac stuff any more in my
> official job.
>
> I'll tell you about the "MacFUSE QA team" some other time.
>
> * What's the deal with MacFUSE on Snow Leopard?
>
> As far as I know, MacFUSE is fine on Snow Leopard as long as you run
> the 32-bit kernel. In particular, you can choose to write either a 32-
> bit or a 64-bit MacFUSE-based application because the 64-bit MacFUSE
> libraries should be fine.
>
> Under the 64-bit kernel, MacFUSE (at least the official release)
> shouldn't cause any problems because the kernel extension wouldn't
> even load.
>
> The 2008 December release did work with the 64-bit kernel. It was
> "experimental" because Snow Leopard itself was experimental then.
> Since then, things have changed with OS X and I've not had the time or
> the need to fix MacFUSE. I'll get to the 64-bit kernel part if/when I
> can.
>
> If you are a file system developer, there may be some other things to
> know about Snow Leopard and MacFUSE. One thing is about the larger
> stat structure on Snow Leopard. I think somebody on this forum posted
> about this--please look for that post. In short, if you compiled a
> previously working file system on Snow Leopard and it stops working
> completely (you get I/O errors even when trying to list the root
> directory of your file system), you've run into the stat structure
> issue. The MacFUSE libraries are compiled with Leopard compatibility,
> which means the smaller stat structure. The "ino64" version of the
> MacFUSE library *is* compiled with the larger stat structure. If
> you're going to run your file system binary on both Leopard and Snow
> Leopard, then you'll be compiling it with Leopard compatibility anyway
> (-mmacosx-version-min=10.5). Otherwise, use the ino64 library.
>
> * What about the reports of MacFUSE being "known to crash Snow
> Leopard"?
>
> Nobody has reported any crashes to me. I've only read some third-hand
> accounts in some threads on this forum. One of the following must be
> happening:
>
> - People don't know what they are talking about.
> - People are running a custom-compiled MacFUSE under a 64-bit kernel.
>
> Usually (barring certain types of memory corruption), a panic log will
> tell you the name of the kernel extension (if an extension was indeed
> involved) that caused the crash.
>
> * Custom-compiled MacFUSE under a 64-bit kernel?
>
> I noticed that some of you are compiling/distributing a MacFUSE kernel
> extension for the 64-bit kernel. Simply recompiling it is not going to
> work--a bunch of non-trivial work is needed. If you simply recompile
> it (by commenting out the #ifdef guards, as I believe folks did),
> it'll load under K64 and might even appear to work. But at best,
> you'll get a kernel panic, and at worst, you'll get data corruption.
>
> You can "test" this yourself under K64. Use the custom-compiled
> version to mount some file system with a bunch of files. Then, from
> multiple terminal windows, cause some continuous file activity, say,
> some 'find' loops. You should get a kernel panic in no time.
>
> Unless you are a kernel developer who wants to "hack" on MacFUSE, I
> wouldn't advise you recompile MacFUSE, specially the kernel extension.
> Even if you do, distributing it is likely to cause pain and confusion.
>
> Amit

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