Very competitive, Dan. Ward Oldham
On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote: > Is Mactown's pricing comparable to MCE's? > > >Cmon Jerry, Mactown does that locally. > > > >Ward > >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:23 ?PM, Jerry Yeager wrote: > > > > > >MCE Technologies > > > >http://www.mcetech.com/ ???will get you to the front page and ? > >http://www.mcetech.com/products.html ??will get you to the > >upgrades page. They also offer solutions for iBooks and iMacs > >as well. > > > > > > Jerry > > > >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 10:41 ?AM, Ward Oldham wrote: > > > >Who's MCE? > > > >Ward > > > >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 10:34 ?AM, Jerry Yeager wrote: > > > > > >That is what your critter is wanting to use, so if you take the > >space away, it thinks the world has suddenly tilted. I think > >MCE will swap your old drive out for a newer, bigger one > >(mirroring the data that is currently on the old onto the new > >one, and if you want also swap the DVD/CD for a DVD/CD-Burner) > >all for a fee of course. > > > >I must beg your pardon. I based my typings on Terminal from > >some of the comments that I have received from folks that never > >used a command line before... > > > > Jerry > > ? > >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 09:33 ?AM, Dan Crutcher wrote: > > > > > >Jerry: > > > >Here's what I get when I type "top" in the terminal (by the > >way, I'm not the guy that hates the terminal; I think that's > >Ward -- I'm just purely ignorant of it): > > > >MemRegions: num = 4998, resident = 92.9M + 13.8M private, ?110M shared > >PhysMem: ?46.9M wired, ?108M active, ?275M inactive, ?429M used, > 82.7M free > >VM: 1.89G + 3.62M ??13087(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts ??? > > > >No pageouts, so I guess that's good. Right now I have 652 MB of > >free space on my hard drive. > > > >So what does all this tell you about my system? Is it really > >using 1.89 GB of virtual memory? > > > >Dan > > > >>Yup, you found it. OS-X does use virtual memory via the hard drive. > >>When you start up it looks at how much physical RAM you have, > >>how much free hard drive space you have available and then > >>through some arcane formula previously known only to alchemists > >>decides on how much hard drive to set aside as virtual memory. > >> > >>I know you hate the Terminal, but humor me this once... (smile) > >>open Terminal and type the command: > >> > >>top > >> > >>then hit return > >> > >>toward the top of the page get back you might see something > >>like: > >> > >>MemRegions: num = 3220, resident = 60.7M + 9.20M private, 76.5M > shared > >>PhysMem: ?43.0M wired, 92.8M active, ?177M inactive, ?313M used, > ?303M free > >>VM: 2.61G + 63.9M ??9907(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts ??? > >> > >>This is the virtual memory amount that has been set aside. if > >>for some reason, drive space is low, OS-X gets very cranky. (I > >>guess the alchemists didn't think about how cranky a machine > >>can get, sicne this was also the dawning of logical > >>positivism). > >> > >>Side note: If you see the pageouts number getting big, that > >>means your system is, well, under stress as it is saving memory > >>segments out to the drive (another reason why you want to use > >>the shutdown option rather than turning the machine off !!) > >> > >> Jerry > >> > >>On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:17 ?AM, Dan Crutcher wrote: > >> > >> > >>I'm still trying to figure out my recent problems with X (which > >>were cured eventually by a reinstall) and I may have found a > >>clue. I again experienced some of the same symptoms, though not > >>nearly so bad this time. And it happened in a situation very > >>similar to the one a few days ago. > >> > >>There are at least two factors that were the same on both > >>occasions: I had booted into OS 9 and I had performed an > >>operation that created large files that nearly filled up my > >>hard drive. When I tried to boot back into X (this time 2.1.3), > >>I found that my desktop was unstable. The icons and the date > >>and time on the right side of the menu bar were flashing on and > >>off; my desktop icons had resized themselves to the default > >>size (I had set them at 32x32) and the dock had returned to its > >>default size and it was no longer hidden. > >> > >>Before the operation that nearly filled up my hard drive > >>(postscripting some Quark pages that had large graphic links), > >>I had about 1.0 GB of free space (on an 18.6 GB drive). After > >>creating the new files I had about 135 MB of space left. This > >>was the case each time that I encountered the problem. > >> > >>This time my system seemed to work more or less normally with > >>the exception of the weird desktop stuff mentioned above, so I > >>immediately deleted about 500 MB worth of files -- and > >>immediately after doing so, my date, time and menu bar icons > >>reappeared and no longer flashed on and off. I reset my icons > >>and dock to their previous settings and restarted, and > >>everything seems to be working fine now. > >> > >>It appears that, on my system at least, OS X gets real cranky > >>when I don't leave it plenty of hard drive space to play with. > >>Any idea why that might be the case? X doesn't have a virtual > >>memory setting like previous versions did, but I'm wondering if > >>it doesn't reserve some hard drive space for use as virtual > >>memory. I have 512 MB of RAM, if that makes any difference. > >> > >>Any thoughts on this? > >> > >>Dan > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 6008 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://www.math.louisville.edu/pipermail/macgroup/attachments/20021222/fb81e378/attachment.bin
