That's certainly another option one, that I like as well, but you gotta
admit, they don't let folks know about it very much!
(The last mailing I got from them, this past week, just says they are
open).
Jerry
On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 01:12 PM, Ward Oldham wrote:
> Very competitive, Dan.
>
> Ward Oldham
>
> On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 01:08 PM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>
>> Is Mactown's pricing comparable to MCE's?
>>
>> >Cmon Jerry, Mactown does that locally.
>> >
>> >Ward
>> >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:23 ?PM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >MCE Technologies
>> >
>> >http://www.mcetech.com/ ???will get you to the front page and ?
>> >http://www.mcetech.com/products.html ??will get you to the
>> >upgrades page. They also offer solutions for iBooks and iMacs
>> >as well.
>> >
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> >
>> >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 10:41 ?AM, Ward Oldham wrote:
>> >
>> >Who's MCE?
>> >
>> >Ward
>> >
>> >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 10:34 ?AM, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >That is what your critter is wanting to use, so if you take the
>> >space away, it thinks the world has suddenly tilted. I think
>> >MCE will swap your old drive out for a newer, bigger one
>> >(mirroring the data that is currently on the old onto the new
>> >one, and if you want also swap the DVD/CD for a DVD/CD-Burner)
>> >all for a fee of course.
>> >
>> >I must beg your pardon. I based my typings on Terminal from
>> >some of the comments that I have received from folks that never
>> >used a command line before...
>> >
>> > Jerry
>> > ?
>> >On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 09:33 ?AM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Jerry:
>> >
>> >Here's what I get when I type "top" in the terminal (by the
>> >way, I'm not the guy that hates the terminal; I think that's
>> >Ward -- I'm just purely ignorant of it):
>> >
>> >MemRegions: num = 4998, resident = 92.9M + 13.8M private, ?110M
>> shared
>> >PhysMem: ?46.9M wired, ?108M active, ?275M inactive, ?429M used,
>> 82.7M free
>> >VM: 1.89G + 3.62M ??13087(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts ???
>> >
>> >No pageouts, so I guess that's good. Right now I have 652 MB of
>> >free space on my hard drive.
>> >
>> >So what does all this tell you about my system? Is it really
>> >using 1.89 GB of virtual memory?
>> >
>> >Dan
>> >
>> >>Yup, you found it. OS-X does use virtual memory via the hard drive.
>> >>When you start up it looks at how much physical RAM you have,
>> >>how much free hard drive space you have available and then
>> >>through some arcane formula previously known only to alchemists
>> >>decides on how much hard drive to set aside as virtual memory.
>> >>
>> >>I know you hate the Terminal, but humor me this once... (smile)
>> >>open Terminal and type the command:
>> >>
>> >>top
>> >>
>> >>then hit return
>> >>
>> >>toward the top of the page get back you might see something
>> >>like:
>> >>
>> >>MemRegions: num = 3220, resident = 60.7M + 9.20M private, 76.5M
>> shared
>> >>PhysMem: ?43.0M wired, 92.8M active, ?177M inactive, ?313M used,
>> ?303M free
>> >>VM: 2.61G + 63.9M ??9907(0) pageins, 0(0) pageouts ???
>> >>
>> >>This is the virtual memory amount that has been set aside. if
>> >>for some reason, drive space is low, OS-X gets very cranky. (I
>> >>guess the alchemists didn't think about how cranky a machine
>> >>can get, sicne this was also the dawning of logical
>> >>positivism).
>> >>
>> >>Side note: If you see the pageouts number getting big, that
>> >>means your system is, well, under stress as it is saving memory
>> >>segments out to the drive (another reason why you want to use
>> >>the shutdown option rather than turning the machine off !!)
>> >>
>> >> Jerry
>> >>
>> >>On Sunday, December 22, 2002, at 12:17 ?AM, Dan Crutcher wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>I'm still trying to figure out my recent problems with X (which
>> >>were cured eventually by a reinstall) and I may have found a
>> >>clue. I again experienced some of the same symptoms, though not
>> >>nearly so bad this time. And it happened in a situation very
>> >>similar to the one a few days ago.
>> >>
>> >>There are at least two factors that were the same on both
>> >>occasions: I had booted into OS 9 and I had performed an
>> >>operation that created large files that nearly filled up my
>> >>hard drive. When I tried to boot back into X (this time 2.1.3),
>> >>I found that my desktop was unstable. The icons and the date
>> >>and time on the right side of the menu bar were flashing on and
>> >>off; my desktop icons had resized themselves to the default
>> >>size (I had set them at 32x32) and the dock had returned to its
>> >>default size and it was no longer hidden.
>> >>
>> >>Before the operation that nearly filled up my hard drive
>> >>(postscripting some Quark pages that had large graphic links),
>> >>I had about 1.0 GB of free space (on an 18.6 GB drive). After
>> >>creating the new files I had about 135 MB of space left. This
>> >>was the case each time that I encountered the problem.
>> >>
>> >>This time my system seemed to work more or less normally with
>> >>the exception of the weird desktop stuff mentioned above, so I
>> >>immediately deleted about 500 MB worth of files -- and
>> >>immediately after doing so, my date, time and menu bar icons
>> >>reappeared and no longer flashed on and off. I reset my icons
>> >>and dock to their previous settings and restarted, and
>> >>everything seems to be working fine now.
>> >>
>> >>It appears that, on my system at least, OS X gets real cranky
>> >>when I don't leave it plenty of hard drive space to play with.
>> >>Any idea why that might be the case? X doesn't have a virtual
>> >>memory setting like previous versions did, but I'm wondering if
>> >>it doesn't reserve some hard drive space for use as virtual
>> >>memory. I have 512 MB of RAM, if that makes any difference.
>> >>
>> >>Any thoughts on this?
>> >>
>> >>Dan
>> >>
>> >>
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