I don't know, do you? I was just putting out some information, don't take
it personally.

Monday, December 6, 200411:02 PMMarta Ediemartaedie at mac.com

>Do you think , Harry, we don't run the definitions  and  don't upgrade  
>when upgrades are available? I don't quite understand your statement.
>Marta
>On Dec 6, 2004, at 22:23, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>
>> Your virus program won't do you any good for tomorrow's virus unless 
>> you
>> update your virus definitions regularly!
>>
>> Monday, December 6, 20046:47 PMMarta Ediemartaedie at mac.com
>>
>>> That is the good thing about Macs. Their makers   think ahead - just 
>>> in
>>> case- rather than after when the milk is spilled. So Virex has its
>>> place. You buy insurance before the house burns, not after, while  all
>>> along hoping you will never need it.
>>> Marta
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2004, at 17:59, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Jerry, Bill and Harry,
>>>> I'd like to offer just a teeny bit more of food for thought.
>>>> Would you agree this is a numbers game???Wouldn't most wackos?write a
>>>> virus because they want fame, money or to release anger?
>>>> With Macs holding 3.2% of the market share, Apple is a smaller target
>>>> for fame, money or anger.
>>>> http://www.macminute.com/2004/01/15/marketshare
>>>> Whatcha thin Babalouie?
>>>> If there wasn't a virus threat on the Mac, would people still buy the
>>>> Norton Antivirus or Virex for the Mac?? Of course, am not saying it's
>>>> a signifcan't threat.? Just offering another point of view.
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Jeff Slyn, Owner
>>>> SLYN Systems & Peripherals
>>>> (502) 426-5469
>>>> serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985!
>>>> ?
>>>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:33:09 -0500 Jerry Yeager
>>>> <jerry at browseryshop.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 04, 2004, at 11:02 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've heard hackers don't attack Mac machines because there are so
>>>>> few
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> them (relative to the pcs). If the roles were reversed, ie Macs
>>>>> having
>>>>>> the major share of the market, wouldn't the hackers be writing
>>>>> code to
>>>>>> get to them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What you have heard is one of those urban legend things. Macs on the
>>>>>
>>>>> 'net are attacked as often as the other OSes. But they are not
>>>>> broken
>>>>> into as often.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not too long ago some computer security firms tracked this and found
>>>>>
>>>>> that the most targeted systems were Linux and Mac OS-X based with
>>>>> Windoze based machines actually being the least targeted. Targeted
>>>>> here
>>>>> means that the attackers are specifically looking to exploit
>>>>> weaknesses
>>>>> in that type of OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> BUT, In terms of being broken into, it (usually) goes like this:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) Windoze systems (very easy, many home users have been broken into
>>>>>
>>>>> and do not know that they are their machines are being used to send
>>>>> out
>>>>> the gobs of spam and viruses that infest the internet.)
>>>>> The things that attack Windoze directly as opposed to other systems
>>>>> are
>>>>> most often looking to either get credit (identity) information
>>>>> likely
>>>>> stored on the computer or to take the machine over to use as part of
>>>>> a
>>>>> zombie network.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 99) Linux (pretty tough -- you have to find a system running with a
>>>>>
>>>>> very sloppy sysop that does not keep up on things)
>>>>> 100) Mac OS-X (not impossible but very tough, see 99). )
>>>>>
>>>>> (Actually, if Macs and Linux systems could be easily broken into,
>>>>> they
>>>>> would be targeted even more, as these systems may have more vital
>>>>> information stored on them).
>>>>>
>>>>> ????????????????????????????????Jerry
>>>>>
>>>>> p.s. Even with Windows SP 2, there are known exploits out there to
>>>>> break into the systems. You might notice in the article none of the
>>>>>
>>>>> honey pot systems that had SP 2 running got broken into. Since SP2
>>>>> basically just turns on a firewall, this shows that attackers are
>>>>> not
>>>>> having to work very hard at all to break into a Windoze machine.
>>>>>
>>>>> p.p.s The above does not mean that you can blindly skip those
>>>>> periodic
>>>>> security updates that Apple releases. Keep installing them!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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