Do you think , Harry, we don't run the definitions  and  don't upgrade  
when upgrades are available? I don't quite understand your statement.
Marta
On Dec 6, 2004, at 22:23, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:

> Your virus program won't do you any good for tomorrow's virus unless 
> you
> update your virus definitions regularly!
>
> Monday, December 6, 20046:47 PMMarta Ediemartaedie at mac.com
>
>> That is the good thing about Macs. Their makers   think ahead - just 
>> in
>> case- rather than after when the milk is spilled. So Virex has its
>> place. You buy insurance before the house burns, not after, while  all
>> along hoping you will never need it.
>> Marta
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2004, at 17:59, Jeff @ SLYN Systems wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jerry, Bill and Harry,
>>> I'd like to offer just a teeny bit more of food for thought.
>>> Would you agree this is a numbers game???Wouldn't most wackos?write a
>>> virus because they want fame, money or to release anger?
>>> With Macs holding 3.2% of the market share, Apple is a smaller target
>>> for fame, money or anger.
>>> http://www.macminute.com/2004/01/15/marketshare
>>> Whatcha thin Babalouie?
>>> If there wasn't a virus threat on the Mac, would people still buy the
>>> Norton Antivirus or Virex for the Mac?? Of course, am not saying it's
>>> a signifcan't threat.? Just offering another point of view.
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> Jeff Slyn, Owner
>>> SLYN Systems & Peripherals
>>> (502) 426-5469
>>> serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985!
>>> ?
>>> On Sun, 5 Dec 2004 13:33:09 -0500 Jerry Yeager
>>> <jerry at browseryshop.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 04, 2004, at 11:02 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've heard hackers don't attack Mac machines because there are so
>>>> few
>>>>> of
>>>>> them (relative to the pcs). If the roles were reversed, ie Macs
>>>> having
>>>>> the major share of the market, wouldn't the hackers be writing
>>>> code to
>>>>> get to them?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What you have heard is one of those urban legend things. Macs on the
>>>>
>>>> 'net are attacked as often as the other OSes. But they are not
>>>> broken
>>>> into as often.
>>>>
>>>> Not too long ago some computer security firms tracked this and found
>>>>
>>>> that the most targeted systems were Linux and Mac OS-X based with
>>>> Windoze based machines actually being the least targeted. Targeted
>>>> here
>>>> means that the attackers are specifically looking to exploit
>>>> weaknesses
>>>> in that type of OS.
>>>>
>>>> BUT, In terms of being broken into, it (usually) goes like this:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Windoze systems (very easy, many home users have been broken into
>>>>
>>>> and do not know that they are their machines are being used to send
>>>> out
>>>> the gobs of spam and viruses that infest the internet.)
>>>> The things that attack Windoze directly as opposed to other systems
>>>> are
>>>> most often looking to either get credit (identity) information
>>>> likely
>>>> stored on the computer or to take the machine over to use as part of
>>>> a
>>>> zombie network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 99) Linux (pretty tough -- you have to find a system running with a
>>>>
>>>> very sloppy sysop that does not keep up on things)
>>>> 100) Mac OS-X (not impossible but very tough, see 99). )
>>>>
>>>> (Actually, if Macs and Linux systems could be easily broken into,
>>>> they
>>>> would be targeted even more, as these systems may have more vital
>>>> information stored on them).
>>>>
>>>> ????????????????????????????????Jerry
>>>>
>>>> p.s. Even with Windows SP 2, there are known exploits out there to
>>>> break into the systems. You might notice in the article none of the
>>>>
>>>> honey pot systems that had SP 2 running got broken into. Since SP2
>>>> basically just turns on a firewall, this shows that attackers are
>>>> not
>>>> having to work very hard at all to break into a Windoze machine.
>>>>
>>>> p.p.s The above does not mean that you can blindly skip those
>>>> periodic
>>>> security updates that Apple releases. Keep installing them!
>
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