Dear Kay, I neither reposted your letters three times, nor did I go down in fury. Maybe you have a slight e-mail problem, too. I simply answered you once -We have many people in the group who absolutely do not know what it means to look at the preferences and the autofill and the key chain and the ...etc .I did not know myself a year or so ago. Now i am trying to faciltate a lot of things for those coming after me in the chain of learning ,lest they be totally discouraged and never reap the benefits of the computer marvels or pay a huge fee for what can be free through the group.And--I am inquisitive by nature, so i ask questions and have gotten most of my answers -believe it or not- from males!!! ( But there are Alex. two Susans, Mike and others of our sex who do contribute ). If you do have seven computers, they must be giving you a sevenfold headache, so I am sure you can't be bothered with a little e-mail address mix-up. No, I am not a web designer, nor a programmer, but i find it fascinating how things can go awry . So we try to find answers from those who have been down the road before and can be of great help. No, not to solve the riddle of the universe, but , often in a quote or a suggestion ,can fix the whole thing and we can start puzzling about something else. I hope I shall never lose my childlike attitude of awe toward the miracles the computer has wrought for me, and turn blas?, and I am confident the group will have enough patience ( probably because they did not work for Disney or Nasa) to help us inquisitive minds who simply want to enlarge our horizons, even if we still splash in the wadiing pools of computer know-how. Teaching is a noble profession, and the group is doing a superb job. I still can't see that inanimate objects can be dumb or wise or smart, we simply transfer those human attributes to them, which is a human tendency, but scientifically incorrect.
Now as to my e-mail problem - well, since I unclicked my ( use of addressbook) in my autofill and deleted a few urls in the other part of the autofill sections, the BBC, the LosAngeles Times, the Washington Post and the ABC News all have accepted my e-mail address as valid. What do you know ? Hen, Rob, Jerry, Tony et al thanks for your help, your musings , your suggestions. It is always a pleasure to get an answer, even if not a definitive one. Das ist der Lauf der Welt( that's the way the cookie crumbles) Now this is the Finale for me pertaining to this string and you can all say :Amen! Basta, basta! Marta On May 23, 2004, at 20:12, > > > Why id you repost your letters and then mine again three times? I had > to scroll scroll scroll through the digest -to find the new posts. > What a fireball in response. Whw. I am sorry you took offense at my > suggestions. But you don't have to be angry, and rude and make > personal attacks, just because you don't like my suggestions or humor > (Those that know me here, know that I am joking half the time, and > that some of these letters and are suppose to be funn!y) . > > I have been listening to a few of your questions on this list the last > few months. Frankly I wrote what I did, since it sounded to me as if > you have been REALLY struggling with all of these computer dustballs > you find! > So I was just trying to help, by telling you, you don't have to worry > about it! All computers have dustballs. > > In my response, just gave you some of the precious teachings that > others when I first learned the mac , in the 80s gave me! ... In fact, > It was John my co-workerat Disney Imagineering, (Who a decade ended up > becoming the head of Disney Online) that had taught me something very > much like, to what I what I just wrote to you in that note. He had > told me that first year, when I was first learning how to use my first > Mac--That it was most important for me to figure out what was the most > important fire to bring to him to help me to solve--because there > would never be enough time to solve all of them. > And guess who it was that had originally, John this insight he had, > about computers? It was John's dad--who had worked at NASA in the 70s > on the space missions, using the very first mainframe machines. He was > one of the Chief Engineers on that project!!! > > So pardon ME, that you didn't care to hear some of what I learned, > from some very brilliant people before me... and then, in turn tried > to pass on to you. > > The other thing I have learned, is computer mailing lists like this > one, are also mostly male-centric sort of forums. And what I find, is > Most computer guys don't have the time or patience to answer every > single question people ask. So if you scream fire to often, on little > problems, you will burn it out, and not save the energy for the bigger > problems when they hit. > > And in regards to your fury comments- > I don't hate my computers, or I would not own 7 of them. I have my > degrees in art and technology and one to come in intellectual > property. So obviously, you are waaaay waaaay way out there in outer > space, really wacko on that one! I think you are taking what I > jokingly said, and taking things way to seriously on that. > > As as far as your statement, about knowledge's sake for knowledge > sake, that's great. I am there on that one, since I LOVE to learn. > But in my honest opinion, there just isn't a whole lot to learn from > the kind of buggy email problem you described, (unless you find that > so fascinating, that you want to want to enroll in computer school to > find out). Sorry, but that is the truth of how I feel about it. The > problem you described? Is just one of those kind of million everyday > problem that give thousands of web designers maintaining websites the > world over, a big Excedrin headache. Those are the exact kind of > problems I want to get AWAY from, not join a club so I can hear more > of them... > > If that is the purpose of this group now, then no problem? I don't > see any desire to stay... > > But, The fact that you do want to learn IS great! But the next time, > in your search for the great Rainbow, and pot of golden Computer > Knowledge - and someone gives you the time, in response, as I tried to > do- in a failed *attempt* of a funny response to your webpage problem? > > > You don't have to kick them in the face. > Haven't you ever heard the expression--Don't look a gift horse in the > mouth??? > > No matter how gruff and tough my male coworker engineers were with me > in the past, I never felt insulted them for helping me out with my > computer! But most of all, I especially appreciated that those that > helped me, didn't do that talk down to me, with the sort of the > helpless girl - car mechanic type of rescue me type of game. Instead, > those guys I worked with and learned from, expected me to listen, and > to think logically and intelligently--when you are dealing with a > computer problem like you explained. > > So, in turn, This is simply what I had expected from you. > I expected you to think logically. Take or leave my advise, if it was > helpful to you or not. > I never expected you to light on fire, and take off, on an emotional > rocketship! > WOW! What a surprise that was... > > And finally in response to your note? > Sorry, again, but I totally disagree with you about desktop computers > being dumb... > Until a computer can take on the tasks of conceptual design, and other > types of intuitive inventive work? > (Which no computer I have seen - can do such similar such tasks) . So > that, I don't have to use a pencil > and paper to do this kind of work. > > Until that day comes, No matter what you say, I will still feel that... > > Computers are pretty dumb and un-intuitive machines!!! > lol > > Sorry my letter and suggestions didn't work out for you. > > Yours, > Kay > > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > | be May 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be May 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
