On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 07:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>
> > Pray tell, what are you talking about?
>
> This gets very confusing when you're around Unix people. For them X is
> "ex" and for us X is 10.

Bah. It's still "OS Ex" to me :) Didn't Apple market is as such for the
first year? Maybe not to the OS 9 people, but in their marketing to unix
users, "OS X" was Ex and not 10. Then just before release they suddenly
seemed to want everyone to call it 10.

> You don't need to worry about this, unless you're planning to run some
> X-windows programs, and there are lots of them out there. Apple's X11
> makes it really easy to bring hard core Unix and Linux programs over to
> the Mac. Programs like Open Office, The Gimp, Emacs and Matlab run on
> Mac OS X under X11.

My recommendations: Abiword. Gnumeric. Gimp. GnuCash.

I've just gone through the 'Fink-process' after installing the X11 beta,
and haven't had to do anything hard to get them all installed [except wait
ages while they automatically compiled and hit the enter key from time to
time]. They all seem to be working fine.

Together they pretty much represent the consumer's office-suite needs,
though gimp is like photoshop, a bit too powerful for the average joe to
learn without effort [I include myself in this group].

GnuCash reads quicken files fine. Abiword reads word files [I've not used
in a couple of years]. Gnumeric is the Excel clone. Gimp is the photoshop
clone. Worth trying over Open Office as they're probably better
performing and more mature.

I've also pushed the FreeCiv game on, which is a great Civilization clone.

Hen



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