I am getting smarter by the minute -- Dan, I  get the same as you, 
thanks . I have only peaked once into that terminal before. It always 
reminds me of going down into one of those Luftschutzkellers ( bunkers) 
to take refuge from the bombs  in WWII. It has that ominous look that 
you may be buried in it forever.  Thanks also to Rex for that Apple 
website which told me  to look for Java in  the installed updates. I 
did not know the Java updates would show in those, too.  What grand 
revelations! - thanks again.
Marta
On Apr 19, 2005, at 16:03, Dan Crutcher wrote:

> Marta:
>
> To find out which version of Java you have, open your Terminal 
> application and type in "java -version" (without the quote marks) and 
> press Return.
>
> When I do that, I get:
>
> "Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 
> 1.4.2_05-141.4)
> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.4.2-38, mixed mode)"
>
> If you don't have the right version, you supposedly will get the 
> message: "Segmentation Fault."
>
> Dan
>
>> Bill, I  have no problems  after the update (  at least i don't think 
>> so, but i really don't know what websites are
>> Java based) , however, how do you know you should update Java. I 
>> tried  to look under "Find" and there is so much Java stuff of which 
>> I have no idea what it even could be,  so please help  me in 
>> determining where one finds Java to be updated.
>> Marta
>> On Apr 19, 2005, at 11:46, Bill Rising wrote:
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2005, at 10:17, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks, I'd noticed people complaining that there were issues but 
>>>> had
>>>> put it down as a minor thing. Glad I've been too lazy to kick off 
>>>> the
>>>> update on my laptop, as it's where I do all my Java development :)
>>>
>>> Just a guess about the problems (of which I've had zero): I'd guess 
>>> that the problems with this update come from not having done earlier 
>>> updates (like skipping the Java 1.4.2 Update 2 or the 2005-02, which 
>>> also patched Java). So... if I had to make a wild guess, those that 
>>> have done all updates involving Java in the past will have no 
>>> problems. Those who skipped some updates which affected Java get a 
>>> mess.
>>>
>>> Of course, I have no way of testing this hypothesis.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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