Dan, I don't even dispute that these ads are sometimes very crafty, 
artistic , have esthetic value ,great photography and ,in intervals,are 
  even clever, and it is my own personal gripe that they  are always 
mixed up with content and that, especially in the TV setting, they 
become annoying  in their droning and repetitious efforts to penetrate 
the brains of us dumblings ,and with me they have the opposite effect. 
I will not buy those products. Of course this is childish. One person 
can't make any difference in this deluge, but it is the curse of the 
gnome against the goliath which allows me to do some venting, so my own 
soul stays in equilibrium. I sometimes have this crazy dream that some 
big corporations might pay out of magnanimity and only on the back page 
of a magazine or at the end of a show it would say in plain or fancy 
letters, in black or color: this product or production was helped by 
the generous efforts of the 'Soandso" company.And all the artistic  
talent and know-how could be used for valuable endeavors in the human 
realm,  as a true expression of the artist's vision, not bound by 
advertising limits and correctness.  Incidentally, I just last week 
called your office to renew my subscription for another two years. - 
And- since I know now you are using the  Adobe in Design, I shall take 
a trip downtown sometime to see all this procedure in action.
You guys are something else! I learned a lot in these recent exchanges. 
I might even try my new found knowledge and  print my own brochure on 
"ME's  philisophical Musings"   as they were brought about by 
contributions of the group and  I would  make sure it would be 
dedicated to this group. The acknowledgments would probably take more 
space than the brochure itself.
Marta
On Sep 15, 2005, at 9:21, Dan Crutcher wrote:

> Oh, Marta, don't ever say that (about those flashy full page ads). 
> They are, indeed, our bread and butter, and our peanut butter and 
> jelly . . . and the reason why we only charge $18 for a year's 
> subscription. If nothing else, try to appreciate them for their 
> layout, photography and other esthetic values.
>
> As for Quark/Pagemaker, about 10 years ago our printer insisted that 
> we make the move from Pagemaker to Quark. Quark was much more advanced 
> in its ability to produce error-free Postscript files, handle trapping 
> (the art of turning a grid of dots into a clean-looking dividing line 
> where two different colors meet on a page) and do several other 
> behind-the-scenes processes that allowed printers to handle digital 
> files efficiently.
>
> Quark quickly became the dominant page layout program for magazines, 
> ad agencies and most of the publishing world. Now, Adobe InDesign 
> appears to be headed towards that same dominance, partly because Quark 
> was slow to upgrade to a usable OS X version, and because of 
> InDesign's built-in compatibility with other Adobe programs like 
> Acrobat, Distiller, Photoshop and Illustrator. Our October issue will 
> be the first that we've designed completely in InDesign. If all goes 
> well, it  will be our design platform for the foreseeable future.
>
> Dan
>
>
>> I am always amazed when I read Dan Crutcher, and then, when I see the 
>> Louisville Magazine I say to myself : How did they ever do this?  ( 
>> Of course i could do without what is their bread and butter, those 
>> flashy  full page ads!)
>
>
>
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