Lee, just delete the previous email with this same message, I mistakenly sent 
it with the old Profile email address and I had a bounced not that you had to 
approve.  So sorry.

John

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> From: Profile <[email protected]>
> Date: December 30, 2010 8:17:42 PM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Where to start
> 
> Ed, 
> 
> How appropriate, very great Podcast, tells me I have bunches to learn but 
> isn't it marvelous that there are so many resources, especially this 
> group........and to think you also paint!!  Thanks so much. 
> 
>  
> John
> 
> 
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:
> 
>> John I listened to a great podcast this morning while painting the bathroom. 
>> Hey what else would I do while painting.
>> The Pipeline on 5by5
>> 
>> The Graig Hockenberry one all are great but this last one deals with this 
>> issue.
>> Graig wrote a popular iOS book this past year on the subject.
>> 
>> Listen to it.
>> 
>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, John Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll ask a question that if there is an answer I have no idea if I'll ever 
>>> be able to accomplish.  I am not very "right brain" but I have such a need 
>>> that I want to see if I can at least begin.
>>> 
>>> I have been working for years on a program that gets data from the Chicago 
>>> Mercantile Exchange.  This was originally written in 4d, but it was too 
>>> slow and the upgrades to the next version were always over $2,000.00 for 
>>> one copy so the process to rewrite to mySQL began.  I have a marvelous 
>>> programmer but he has just taken another job that is now occupying all his 
>>> time and there are so many things that need to be done, AND I don't need to 
>>> rely on someone else in a tight situation.
>>> 
>>> This beast is huge, the SQL portion calculates the data, there is a program 
>>> (possibly written in SQL?) that goes to get the data, feeds it into the 
>>> database for crunching, then there is a front end that I can't remember, 
>>> starts with a "P" I believe, it draws the screens that we need.  Finally 
>>> there are Applescripts that once the data is calculated they will email me 
>>> a screenshot of the day so if I am away from the computer when I need the 
>>> data I can have it sent to me, that is why I need an iPhone and iPad on 
>>> both the AT&T & Verizon networks.  
>>> 
>>> To print all this out would be several hundred pages and when I look at it 
>>> I think I have stumbled onto some Arabic.  
>>> 
>>> Where in the world would I begin to learn how to tackle this.  Are there 
>>> schools around that teach Unix, mySQL, etc. etc.  I don't want a degree, I 
>>> only want to learn my program.  There are changes I need to make and my 
>>> friend just doesn't have the time so I am going to have to see if I can 
>>> take his code and make sense of it but to do so I will need classes.
>>> 
>>> Books without instruction will do little for me as most textbooks assume 
>>> you already know way more than I do.  Lee and many of the others on this 
>>> group could handle this type thing but for me I will need to start at the 
>>> kindergarden level and build.  
>>> 
>>> There may be video lesson online somewhere, I know where a ton are for 
>>> learning video, FinalCut, Photoshop, etc. but not the real geek stuff.
>>> 
>>> Any direction would be appreciated, remember though it has to start basic.  
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
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