Thans you so much Ed, I'll look into this one also.  FIRST I have to figure out 
how to set up the servers, next to install the program and have it running on 
the servers.  THEN I will begin the road of trying to understand the program.  
This all all too much!!

John


On Dec 31, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:

> John there is also a class from Sanford university that I subscribe to on 
> iTunes U that deals with iOS development.
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Dec 30, 2010, at 8:21 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Lee, just delete the previous email with this same message, I mistakenly 
>> sent it with the old Profile email address and I had a bounced not that you 
>> had to approve.  So sorry.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Profile <[email protected]>
>>> Date: December 30, 2010 8:17:42 PM EST
>>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Where to start
>>> 
>>> Ed, 
>>> 
>>> How appropriate, very great Podcast, tells me I have bunches to learn but 
>>> isn't it marvelous that there are so many resources, especially this 
>>> group........and to think you also paint!!  Thanks so much. 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2010, at 12:41 PM, Ed Wiser wrote:
>>> 
>>>> John I listened to a great podcast this morning while painting the 
>>>> bathroom. Hey what else would I do while painting.
>>>> The Pipeline on 5by5
>>>> 
>>>> The Graig Hockenberry one all are great but this last one deals with this 
>>>> issue.
>>>> Graig wrote a popular iOS book this past year on the subject.
>>>> 
>>>> Listen to it.
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 29, 2010, at 8:29 PM, John Robinson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'll ask a question that if there is an answer I have no idea if I'll 
>>>>> ever be able to accomplish.  I am not very "right brain" but I have such 
>>>>> a need that I want to see if I can at least begin.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been working for years on a program that gets data from the 
>>>>> Chicago Mercantile Exchange.  This was originally written in 4d, but it 
>>>>> was too slow and the upgrades to the next version were always over 
>>>>> $2,000.00 for one copy so the process to rewrite to mySQL began.  I have 
>>>>> a marvelous programmer but he has just taken another job that is now 
>>>>> occupying all his time and there are so many things that need to be done, 
>>>>> AND I don't need to rely on someone else in a tight situation.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This beast is huge, the SQL portion calculates the data, there is a 
>>>>> program (possibly written in SQL?) that goes to get the data, feeds it 
>>>>> into the database for crunching, then there is a front end that I can't 
>>>>> remember, starts with a "P" I believe, it draws the screens that we need. 
>>>>>  Finally there are Applescripts that once the data is calculated they 
>>>>> will email me a screenshot of the day so if I am away from the computer 
>>>>> when I need the data I can have it sent to me, that is why I need an 
>>>>> iPhone and iPad on both the AT&T & Verizon networks.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> To print all this out would be several hundred pages and when I look at 
>>>>> it I think I have stumbled onto some Arabic.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Where in the world would I begin to learn how to tackle this.  Are there 
>>>>> schools around that teach Unix, mySQL, etc. etc.  I don't want a degree, 
>>>>> I only want to learn my program.  There are changes I need to make and my 
>>>>> friend just doesn't have the time so I am going to have to see if I can 
>>>>> take his code and make sense of it but to do so I will need classes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Books without instruction will do little for me as most textbooks assume 
>>>>> you already know way more than I do.  Lee and many of the others on this 
>>>>> group could handle this type thing but for me I will need to start at the 
>>>>> kindergarden level and build.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> There may be video lesson online somewhere, I know where a ton are for 
>>>>> learning video, FinalCut, Photoshop, etc. but not the real geek stuff.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any direction would be appreciated, remember though it has to start 
>>>>> basic.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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