Around 3 bucks a month for the cable card. 

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 10:28 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Ed has been trying to get me to do this for ages, guess I procrastinate far 
> to much.  Is the rental for the card costly?  
> 
> Guess I have always wanted to control this with Mac Mini’s, it would be my 
> first choice.  IF the FCC comes through with Unlocking then it should be a 
> door Apple walks through.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Chris Denny <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I guess what I don't understand is for those who are unhappy about the cost 
>> of a DVR from  cable provider, why not buy a TiVo and just rent the cable 
>> card? I set my dad up with two of them so his cable bill isn't higher.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:09 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Today I received my TimeWarner bill, they have increased the DVR set top 
>>> boxes by $4.23 cents, to a total of $34.48, $413.76 for the year or in the 
>>> 10 years we have lived here to over $4,000.00….
>>> 
>>> Times are changing, I sent a note on 2/9/16 about the FCC’s “Unlock The 
>>> Box”….it’s gaining legs and the two article below give hope.  The second 
>>> was published yesterday and at the bottom is a link for us to send our 
>>> approval or disapproval.   Wouldn’t you think it would be in our best 
>>> interest for cost as well as preserving a program of importance?
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> FCC votes to fight cable's reign over set-top boxes
>>> And you could see lower monthly bills.
>>> 
>>> 02-18-16
>>> 
>>> <464526214.jpg>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last month, reports surfaced that the FCC planned to pry set-top boxes out 
>>> of hands of cable and satellite companies. Today, the Commission passed the 
>>> "Unlock the Box" plan that would do just that. The proposal aims to 
>>> introduce more competition when it comes to the boxes you rent from 
>>> television providers. As it stands, you have to lease the equipment from a 
>>> cable or satellite company for a monthly fee that's added to your bill. You 
>>> have little choice in the matter, and those fees earn service providers 
>>> millions of dollars a year. With the FCC plan, opening up cable boxes to 
>>> third parties would not only lower costs, but make it easier for pay-TV 
>>> subscribers to tap into internet programming like Netflix and Hulu.
>>> 
>>> Under the new rules, cable companies would have to give third-party device 
>>> makers, like TiVo, the information they'd need in order to build set-top 
>>> boxes. This would not only provide alternatives to the hardware that 
>>> television providers tack on, but it's meant to drive better software 
>>> interfaces as well. Of course, with billions on the line for cable and 
>>> satellite companies, this issue is far from being resolved.
>>> 
>>> Before today's vote, Republican Commissioner Ajit Pai noted that instead of 
>>> increasing competition, the FCC should be trying to kill the set-top box 
>>> altogether. "Right now we are en route to eliminating the need for a set 
>>> top box altogether and apps can turn the iPad or phone into a navigation 
>>> device," Pai explained. "The commission should be encouraging those 
>>> efforts. But this proposal would do the opposite." Bob Quinn, AT&T's SVP of 
>>> Federal Regulatory, agrees with Pai, calling the FCC's move "a missed 
>>> opportunity" and expressing concerns over companies like Google being privy 
>>> to consumer viewing habits. Quinn explained:
>>> 
>>> The focus of that proceeding could have been how to eliminate the set-top 
>>> box while protecting content creators' incentives to develop interesting 
>>> programming, building upon and growing the base of minority programming 
>>> which exists today, and ensuring that what consumers watch on television 
>>> remains none of Google's business.
>>> 
>>> Quinn went on to explain that the Commission would need to set up a 
>>> regulatory process to oversee the whole thing, which will take time and 
>>> money. "As an added bonus, the FCC will have to establish an enormous 
>>> regulatory infrastructure to create and oversee this new technology mandate 
>>> that involves the creation of new technology standards and standards 
>>> bodies," he said. 
>>> 
>>> The AT&T SVP argues that the policy will stifle the very innovation it 
>>> seeks to encourage.
>>> 
>>> By "unlocking" the set-top box, the FCC also wants make it easier for 
>>> independent and diverse content providers to reach their audience. In other 
>>> words, the Commission wants to boost minority programming. "We hope that 
>>> the two proceedings launched by the FCC today will ultimately result in 
>>> better representation in the media for people of color and that 
>>> representation matters," said Alex Nogales, president and CEO of the 
>>> National Hispanic Media Coalition.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <logo_full.png>
>>> ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION
>>> DEFENDING YOUR RIGHTS IN THE DIGITAL WORLD
>>> 
>>> 
>>> APRIL 6, 2016 | BY CORY DOCTOROW AND MITCH STOLTZ
>>> 
>>> The FCC's Plan To Unlock Your Set-Top Box Is About Competition, Not 
>>> Copyright
>>> 
>>> The Federal Communications Commission is trying to open up the closed world 
>>> of TV set-top boxes, with the goal of finally killing that dust-gathering, 
>>> power-sucking box altogether. They’ve proposed a new rule known as “Unlock 
>>> the Box” that allows devices and apps from any manufacturer to connect with 
>>> your home cable or satellite TV feeds. We think the FCC’s effort has the 
>>> potential to unlock new competition, delivering cost savings and innovation.
>>> 
>>> Imagine being able to search for shows and movies available on your cable 
>>> or satellite TV service, online services like Netflix and Amazon, and even 
>>> over-the-air broadcasts, all with the same search-box. Imagine being able 
>>> to change and customize your cable's janky interface as much as you do with 
>>> PCs, smartphones, and browsers, and to add new features from any source. 
>>> Oh, and imagine not having to pay $231 a year to rent a set-top box that's 
>>> really just a three-generations-stale PC in an ugly case. The FCC’s “Unlock 
>>> the Box” proposal might achieve all this, if we nudge the agency to do it 
>>> right.
>>> 
>>> The set-top box is a frozen artifact of a bygone age whose features have 
>>> been caught in a time-warp of innovation-through-permission. For the past 
>>> 20 years, everyone who's had a cool idea for making the pay-TV experience 
>>> better was sent packing. If the FCC's order comes through, they'll deliver.
>>> This isn’t about control over copying, but control over the entire 
>>> experience of TV watching, from the studio to your eyeballs, and over 
>>> search and discovery as well as viewing. Open competition could bring many 
>>> more options, like new TV interfaces that present recommendations from 
>>> various critics and tastemakers, or from your friends. New video devices 
>>> could take you straight to those shows and movies in one step, no matter 
>>> which of your pay-TV or Internet video services they appear on. This could 
>>> be a boon for niche and non-mainstream programs of all kinds.
>>> 
>>> So, when you hear from opponents that Unlock the Box rules will violate 
>>> copyright, ask them: do you mean copyright, or the made-up right to tell 
>>> people how they're allowed to watch?
>>> 
>>> And consider sending a comment to the FCC asking them to pass the Unlock 
>>> the Box rules, before April 22. (Enter "15-64" in the box labeled 
>>> "Proceeding Number").
>>> 
>>> 
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