Yes I use TiVo and love it. Biggest issue there is that TiVo is being bought by 
another company right now so things are up in the air.
My favorite thing right now is watching British TV thru a VPN can watch all the 
shows we love in real time right off the web page.:)

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Denny
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 10:00 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Unlock The Box

I guess what I don't understand is for those who are unhappy about the cost of 
a DVR from  cable provider, why not buy a TiVo and just rent the cable card? I 
set my dad up with two of them so his cable bill isn't higher.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:09 PM, John Robinson 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:





Today I received my TimeWarner bill, they have increased the DVR set top boxes 
by $4.23 cents, to a total of $34.48, $413.76 for the year or in the 10 years 
we have lived here to over $4,000.00….

Times are changing, I sent a note on 2/9/16 about the FCC’s “Unlock The 
Box”….it’s gaining legs and the two article below give hope.  The second was 
published yesterday and at the bottom is a link for us to send our approval or 
disapproval.   Wouldn’t you think it would be in our best interest for cost as 
well as preserving a program of importance?

John


FCC votes to fight cable's reign over set-top boxes
And you could see lower monthly bills.

02-18-16

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Last month, reports surfaced that the FCC 
planned<http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/27/the-fcc-is-going-to-war-over-set-top-boxes/>
 to pry set-top boxes out of hands of cable and satellite companies. Today, the 
Commission passed the "Unlock the Box" 
plan<http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0127/DOC-337449A1.pdf>
 that would do just that. The proposal aims to introduce more competition when 
it comes to the boxes you rent from television providers. As it stands, you 
have to lease the equipment from a cable or satellite company for a monthly fee 
that's added to your bill. You have little choice in the matter, and those fees 
earn service providers millions of dollars a year. With the FCC plan, opening 
up cable boxes to third parties would not only lower costs, but make it easier 
for pay-TV subscribers to tap into internet programming like Netflix and Hulu.

Under the new rules, cable companies would have to give third-party device 
makers, like TiVo, the information they'd need in order to build set-top boxes. 
This would not only provide alternatives to the hardware that television 
providers tack on, but it's meant to drive better software interfaces as well. 
Of course, with billions on the line for cable and satellite companies, this 
issue is far from being resolved.

Before today's vote, Republican Commissioner Ajit Pai noted that instead of 
increasing competition, the FCC should be trying to kill the set-top box 
altogether. "Right now we are en route to eliminating the need for a set top 
box altogether and apps can turn the iPad or phone into a navigation device," 
Pai explained. "The commission should be encouraging those efforts. But this 
proposal would do the opposite." Bob Quinn, AT&T's SVP of Federal Regulatory, 
agrees with Pai, calling the FCC's move "a missed opportunity" and expressing 
concerns over companies like Google being privy to consumer viewing habits. 
Quinn explained:

The focus of that proceeding could have been how to eliminate the set-top box 
while protecting content creators' incentives to develop interesting 
programming, building upon and growing the base of minority programming which 
exists today, and ensuring that what consumers watch on television remains none 
of Google's business.

Quinn went on to explain that the Commission would need to set up a regulatory 
process to oversee the whole thing, which will take time and money. "As an 
added bonus, the FCC will have to establish an enormous regulatory 
infrastructure to create and oversee this new technology mandate that involves 
the creation of new technology standards and standards bodies," he said.

The AT&T SVP argues that the policy will stifle the very innovation it seeks to 
encourage.

By "unlocking" the set-top box, the FCC also wants make it easier for 
independent and diverse content providers to reach their audience. In other 
words, the Commission wants to boost minority programming. "We hope that the 
two proceedings launched by the FCC today will ultimately result in better 
representation in the media for people of color and that representation 
matters," said Alex Nogales, president and CEO of the National Hispanic Media 
Coalition.




<logo_full.png><https://www.eff.org/>
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION<https://www.eff.org/>
DEFENDING YOUR RIGHTS IN THE DIGITAL WORLD


APRIL 6, 2016 | BY CORY DOCTOROW AND MITCH 
STOLTZ<https://www.eff.org/about/staff/mitch-stoltz>

The FCC's Plan To Unlock Your Set-Top Box Is About Competition, Not Copyright

The Federal Communications Commission is trying to open up the closed world of 
TV set-top boxes, with the goal of finally killing that dust-gathering, 
power-sucking box altogether. They’ve proposed a new rule known as “Unlock the 
Box<https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-337795A1.pdf>” that 
allows devices and apps from any manufacturer to connect with your home cable 
or satellite TV feeds. We think the FCC’s effort has the potential to unlock 
new competition, delivering cost savings and innovation.

Imagine being able to search for shows and movies available on your cable or 
satellite TV service, online services like Netflix and Amazon, and even 
over-the-air broadcasts, all with the same search-box. Imagine being able to 
change and customize your cable's janky interface as much as you do with PCs, 
smartphones, and browsers, and to add new features from any source. Oh, and 
imagine not having to pay $231 a year to rent a set-top box that's really just 
a three-generations-stale PC in an ugly case. The FCC’s “Unlock the Box” 
proposal<https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-16-18A1.pdf> might 
achieve all this, if we nudge the agency to do it right.

The set-top box is a frozen artifact of a bygone age whose features have been 
caught in a time-warp of innovation-through-permission. For the past 20 years, 
everyone who's had a cool idea for making the pay-TV experience better was sent 
packing. If the FCC's order comes through, they'll deliver.
This isn’t about control over copying, but control over the entire experience 
of TV watching, from the studio to your eyeballs, and over search and discovery 
as well as viewing. Open competition could bring many more options, like new TV 
interfaces that present recommendations from various critics and tastemakers, 
or from your friends. New video devices could take you straight to those shows 
and movies in one step, no matter which of your pay-TV or Internet video 
services they appear on. This could be a boon for niche and non-mainstream 
programs of all kinds.

So, when you hear from opponents that Unlock the Box rules will violate 
copyright, ask them: do you mean copyright, or the made-up right to tell people 
how they're allowed to watch?

And consider sending a comment<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/upload/display> to the 
FCC asking them to pass the Unlock the Box rules, before April 22. (Enter 
"15-64" in the box labeled "Proceeding Number").


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