I used this for years and loved it:
Elgato EyeTV Hybrid TV Tuner for Mac

Then I cut cable and never got around to installing the antenna in my attic. I 
use Hulu and Netflix, but don't watch that much TV anymore, other than 
documentaries and a few movies. I get my news thru apps and subscriptions on my 
iPad (Apple News, NYT, CJ) so I don't really miss the local programming 
anymore. TV is mostly a vast wasteland IMO.

Still, if I add an antenna, I would gladly go back to EyeTV. You can record and 
save programs, and there was an annual "schedule" you could purchase for $19 I 
think. Then you go thru and select the shows you want to record one-time or 
continuously. You can screen for recording genre, by actor name, show name, 
etc. Also can screen out re-runs.  All recorded to my Macmini and I routinely 
backed the programming I wanted to keep onto an external HD.

Good luck!



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>   5. Re: Spectrum Has To Go (John Robinson)
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> From: Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go
> Date: November 12, 2019 at 9:52:27 PM EST
> To: MacGroup <[email protected]>
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>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:45 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>> 
>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>> 
>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
> 
> I would start out with what you have and see how it goes. It would be pretty 
> easy to add a signal booster, so you can add that at any time if you find 
> that you need it.
>> 
>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do I 
>> have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  It 
>> sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that can 
>> then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
> 
> Lots of info if you Google: "record TV signal to a Mac”
> 
> Good luck and keep us posted!
> 
> 
> Jonathan
> 
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> Jonathan Fletcher
> Workplace Innovation Facilitator
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> Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group  •  Next Meeting: 11/26/19
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> 
> From: John Robinson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go
> Date: November 12, 2019 at 10:02:51 PM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
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> 
> Thanks Jonathan, but I was hoping you would offer to install and I could 
> watch.
> 
> Appreciate the help,  Spectrum, for some reason, seems to think they can 
> charge whatever they want and folks like myself have always accepted.
> 
> I moved my daughter to Antenna TV over a year ago, she gets a lot of 
> pixelating but she has an interior antenna, hopefully the exterior model will 
> help.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:45 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>>> 
>>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>>> 
>>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>> 
>> I would start out with what you have and see how it goes. It would be pretty 
>> easy to add a signal booster, so you can add that at any time if you find 
>> that you need it.
>>> 
>>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do 
>>> I have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  
>>> It sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that 
>>> can then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>> 
>> Lots of info if you Google: "record TV signal to a Mac”
>> 
>> Good luck and keep us posted!
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> --
>> Jonathan Fletcher
>> Workplace Innovation Facilitator
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group  •  Next Meeting: 11/26/19
>> 
>> Technology Association of Louisville, Ky (TALK)
>> www.talklou.com 
>> 
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> From: John Robinson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go
> Date: November 12, 2019 at 10:05:45 PM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Do Digital rigihts affect recording to a Mac?  I’m asking anyone who is doing 
> this, what problems will this hurdle present?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Jonathan Fletcher <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:45 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>>> 
>>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>>> 
>>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>> 
>> I would start out with what you have and see how it goes. It would be pretty 
>> easy to add a signal booster, so you can add that at any time if you find 
>> that you need it.
>>> 
>>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do 
>>> I have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  
>>> It sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that 
>>> can then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>> 
>> Lots of info if you Google: "record TV signal to a Mac”
>> 
>> Good luck and keep us posted!
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> --
>> Jonathan Fletcher
>> Workplace Innovation Facilitator
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> Kentuckiana FileMaker Developers Group  •  Next Meeting: 11/26/19
>> 
>> Technology Association of Louisville, Ky (TALK)
>> www.talklou.com 
>> 
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> 
> From: Ed Wiser <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go
> Date: November 13, 2019 at 7:27:24 AM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> I would go with a OTA TiVo. 
> The problem with doing recordings on a Mac you need a tv schedule.  An that 
> is what you pay TiVo for. Their box is always getting g an updated tv 
> schedule. I have used them for 25 years and they are solid boxes. They use 
> Linux and have a special software that constantly defrag’s the hard drive 
> space that you use to record the shows. You will have to do this yourself on 
> the Mac mini. 
> The TiVo also will skip most network tv commercials.  😀
> 
> You could also get YouTube Tv an “record” shows. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:46 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I seem to have a fobia on how to accomplish what I need to do…so I’m seeking 
>> details on the logistics of making this work.
>> 
>> In 2017 I was paying Insight or Time Warner (whichever it was) $$179.04 a 
>> month for TV and Internet.  
>> 
>> It went to $180.66.
>> 
>> Then $187.23
>> 
>> Again $194.55
>> 
>> Again $196.80
>> 
>> And the new Bill $207.81
>> 
>> I called and am told it’s just an increase to cover the higher cost…and the 
>> gal said that she had cut the cable TV service 3 years ago.
>> 
>> I’m now serious, this is nuts.
>> 
>> Here is my problem  
>> 
>> One Coax feed into Spectrum’s modem, from there to the Distribution box you 
>> see in the photo.
>> 
>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>> 
>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>> 
>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>> 
>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do I 
>> have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  It 
>> sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that can 
>> then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>> 
>> Lots of questions, as I’m clueless.
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> <IMG_5883.jpeg>
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> From: John Robinson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go
> Date: November 13, 2019 at 8:48:14 AM EST
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Thank you Ed, I hoped you would answer as I know how much you like TiVo.  
> 
> Is there a way to move your recordings off the TiVo to a Mac?  In 2013 our 
> grandson’s team one the State Basketball Championship. The broadcast had been 
> recorded on the Time Warner box & it later died, we lost the game.  
> 
> Every so often there are programs that we want to preserve forever, which I 
> could do with a recording on the Mac, but am concerned that any other method 
> will limit me to the reliability of a box I can’t copy from or back up to an 
> external drive.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Ed Wiser <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> I would go with a OTA TiVo. 
>> The problem with doing recordings on a Mac you need a tv schedule.  An that 
>> is what you pay TiVo for. Their box is always getting g an updated tv 
>> schedule. I have used them for 25 years and they are solid boxes. They use 
>> Linux and have a special software that constantly defrag’s the hard drive 
>> space that you use to record the shows. You will have to do this yourself on 
>> the Mac mini. 
>> The TiVo also will skip most network tv commercials.  😀
>> 
>> You could also get YouTube Tv an “record” shows. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:46 PM, John Robinson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I seem to have a fobia on how to accomplish what I need to do…so I’m 
>>> seeking details on the logistics of making this work.
>>> 
>>> In 2017 I was paying Insight or Time Warner (whichever it was) $$179.04 a 
>>> month for TV and Internet.  
>>> 
>>> It went to $180.66.
>>> 
>>> Then $187.23
>>> 
>>> Again $194.55
>>> 
>>> Again $196.80
>>> 
>>> And the new Bill $207.81
>>> 
>>> I called and am told it’s just an increase to cover the higher cost…and the 
>>> gal said that she had cut the cable TV service 3 years ago.
>>> 
>>> I’m now serious, this is nuts.
>>> 
>>> Here is my problem  
>>> 
>>> One Coax feed into Spectrum’s modem, from there to the Distribution box you 
>>> see in the photo.
>>> 
>>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>>> 
>>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>>> 
>>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>>> 
>>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do 
>>> I have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  
>>> It sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that 
>>> can then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>>> 
>>> Lots of questions, as I’m clueless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> <IMG_5883.jpeg>
>>> 
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