Dan,
I remember the LAUG. I never had a legs but I loved that apple //e. I learned 
to program in Basic on it and I also had taken an Adult Ed class through UofL 
and worked on a TRS80 but the Apple was much more fun. I had tricked mine out 
with two 3.5 inch disk drive and stopped using the 5.25 drives.

I had a friend who was a psychology professor at Michigan State. His area was 
the judicial system. He had a list of judges on the schools mainframe and used 
his //e at home to interface with that to create mailing labels. He had 
programmed in, I believe, fortran to make the interface work.

I really liked the apple // version of Appleworks and missed it dearly after I 
got my Mac. I thought it could do many more things better early on than the Mac 
version.

Oh well. I am probably on my 7th or 8th Mac now and I love it.

Harry

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Dan Crutcher <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Harry, I remember those days as well. I think we first met at a LAUG 
> (Louisville Apple Users Group) meeting, probably in the mid-‘80s. I also 
> remember times spent in Tom Guenthner’s basement talking about LAUG and how 
> we could get more participants.
> 
> In 1987 I bought an Apple IIgs (having previously owned a IIe) and thought 
> I’d been transported to computer heaven, with its 2.8 MHz, 16-bit processor. 
> I souped it up with a RamKeeper card and a 30 MB hard drive ($600). Because 
> the GS was text-based (in its ProDOS mode) it was incredibly fast: boot time 
> was approximately 2 seconds. It also had a Maclike graphical user interface 
> that I rarely used because it was so slow. 
> 
> You may recall that there was a bit of tension between the Apple II folks and 
> the Mac users at LAUG meetings in the early days of Mac. Us IIGS users found 
> the Macs (SE’s at that time?) intriguing but way too expensive and laughably 
> slow with its clunky GUI. And a lot of us IIers were pissed off that Apple 
> was devoting all its resources to the Mac and leaving the II series twisting 
> in the wind. At that time the Apple II was the cash cow that was supporting 
> the newfangled Macs and it felt traitorous that Apple abandoned it. 
> 
> Those LAUG meetings were also where I met Lee, who was the first one I can 
> remember to own a Mac. He was pretty sure that the Mac was the wave of the 
> future and I thought he was a bit daft. Look how that turned out. 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for the long ride. I first discovered our little group when 
>> you and Tom Guenthner managed a bulletin board which I accessed with a dial 
>> up modem from my Apple //e. When Apple came out with the Apple //e enhanced 
>> model Tom upgraded my computer.
>> 
>> One of my favorite memories was the group (led by Lee and Tom) building a 
>> 60mb hard drive for group members. You found a box, cables, controller 
>> board, and hard drive the computer shopper and we met at someone’s house and 
>> you helped us put it all together. It cost us about $500 per unit. I used 
>> that drive on my Apple //e. When I got my first Mac I reformatted it and 
>> used it with my Mac.
>> 
>> I remember meetings at the Mac Store on Breckinridge Lane - it’s now Simply 
>> Mac and they have moved from that location. We moved to the government 
>> center on Shelbyville Rd. I think at some point the membership dwindled and 
>> then you, Lee, set up this list serve.
>> 
>> To everyone who has ever submitted a question to the group and/or supplied 
>> an answer a heartfelt Thank-you. And to Lee we ALL owe you a huge thanks and 
>> a round of applause for all the time and effort you spent setting up the 
>> group and answering questions.
>> 
>> See you in the could.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Lee Larson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Instructional Technology people at the University of Louisville have 
>>> decided departmental mail servers are an unacceptable security risk. They 
>>> are going to block external access to them beginning February 15. After 
>>> they do this, it won’t be possible to host MacGroup on its present server. 
>>> Unless another server can be found, the list will no longer be available 
>>> after that date.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
>>> PS/ This list has had a long lifetime, compared to most mailing lists. My 
>>> archives date back to July 16, 2007 and contain over 16,000 messages. When 
>>> I first set up this list I had no idea it would last more than twelve years 
>>> and migrate through at least three machine upgrades.
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Lee Larson
>>> [email protected]
>>> 
>>> So long, and thanks for all the fish. — Douglas Adams, Hitchhiker’s 
>>> Trilogy, Volume 4
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