On 05/04/18 10:07, 'fishy' via Machinekit wrote:


On Wednesday, 4 April 2018 16:41:46 UTC+1, Schooner wrote:


It is a community project, but thus far everyone (with minimal
exceptions) who has stood where you are and bemoaned the lack of
detailed personalised instructions for their
hardware combination of choice, has subsequently failed to contribute
anything to make it easier for the next person to tread that path.

If you were to break that trend, I would be delighted.


I am not sure if that is what was described by "tragedy of the commons" ?

I think it is, certainly it is a common trend.


I guess most open source projects get less than 1% of users actually contributing something back to the project?

I wonder if some autodoc system could be made to force people to contribute in order to get support from a real person? :lol

Unfortunately 99% of people are here to get free cnc software installed for zero cost, they are not interested in playing with software development as a hobby.

Yes and as someone who would not touch Microsoft or Apple with a bargepole, it does gall somewhat.


As a start does machinekit have a easy access wiki system? (http://www.machinekit.io/community/contributing/)

Wiki's unfortunately are for people who commit a mind dump to a page and then move on, leaving it orphaned and unmaintained.

Linuxcnc's documentation is full of wikis which refer to Ubuntu Hardy and other long since deceased distros and you pretty
much need to know enough not to need the wiki in the first place, to sort the wheat from the chaff.

Of course this forum may not be the best place to find linuxcnc help, as it is actually  here for discussion of machinekit, so maybe the original poster should start by updating the wiki (http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?BeagleBone) with all the information they have used and the steps they took to install machinekit on the beaglebone.  Then maybe some of the experts here could take time away from their most important work to review and analyse the problem?

If you read the wiki, it was originally largely written by Michael Haberler, before he left Linuxcnc to found Machinekit.
It is well out of date.

It was the refusal of Linuxcnc to incorporate changes that would allow ARM boards to run Xenomai and rt-preempt kernels so as to make the use of an ARM board
possible, amongst many other changes, that led to the split and fork to Machinekit.
They have since seamlessly incorporated some of the changes, as if they had come up with them ;-)

If someone has something to contribute and refuses to use the tools provided because some perceived difficulty or other bias, I don't care.

If they create a wiki and provide a link to it, we can cut and paste the text into a proper asciidoc and incorporate it into the website.
When they move to other things, the wiki will wither and die from lack of relevance and maintenance, but we will have a document that could be updated as required.

There's the challenge, Word document, wiki, compilation cut and paste from a number of forum posts (all of which can be searched from the website anyway),
or any other format.

If it is of use we will use it.



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